bobjohnson
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Titusville, FL |  Don't you lose functionality...
On different wireless carriers... They seem to go through alot of trouble to jailbreak the iphones when it seems that on other networks the phone works differently? |
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bnceo
join:2007-10-11
West Orange, NJ
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I mean, if you don't like AT&T, you really only have T-Mobile as your GSM choice. And last time I checked, they weren't that great anyways. I know jailbroken is fine outside the US, but what purpose does it serve here in the US besides getting apps that aren't in the app store? |
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DrModem
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Re: Don't you lose functionality...
Edit: nvm |
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Pirate515
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said by bobjohnson  :On different wireless carriers... They seem to go through a lot of trouble to jailbreak the iPhones when it seems that on other networks the phone works differently? The only thing you will be missing is Visual Voice Mail. Aside from that, everything else works the same way.
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ptrowski
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Re: Isn't there only 2 GSM providers?
said by bnceo :I mean, if you don't like AT&T, you really only have T-Mobile as your GSM choice. And last time I checked, they weren't that great anyways. I know jailbroken is fine outside the US, but what purpose does it serve here in the US besides getting apps that aren't in the app store? »thebigboss.org/why-jailbreak-iphone/
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Karl Bode
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Jail Breaking is not synonymous with unlocking...
You can jail break the phone to get alternative apps. But you're right, unlocking is less sexy for U.S. users... |
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whfsdude
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Washington, DC | Kind of Inaccurate
It doesn't actually matter what the size of T-Mobile USA's 3G footprint is as the phone won't actually work with it.
TMO's 3G is AWS. That means their 3G requires 1700/2100 mhz. |
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PolarBear
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join:2005-01-03 | Who cares about 3G
But here in the States, your only GSM alternative to AT&T would be T-Mobile, whose 3G footprint is substantially smaller. And whose customer service and prices more than make up for it. Even if the 3G doesn't work at all. |
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wifi4milez
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Re: Isn't there only 2 GSM providers?
said by Karl Bode :Jail Breaking is not synonymous with unlocking... You can jail break the phone to get alternative apps. But you're right, unlocking is less sexy for U.S. users... Not to mention that Tmo and ATT offer 3G on different frequencies here in the US. For this reason, even if you unlock the iphone for use on Tmo it will only get GSM/EDGE for data. To be honest if you are deadset on using an iphone on Tmo, you might as well save some money and buy an unlocked 2G version.
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | reply to whfsdude
Re: Kind of Inaccurate
True, I re-worded that..... |
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decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
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Re: Isn't there only 2 GSM providers?
said by Karl Bode :Jail Breaking is not synonymous with unlocking... You can jail break the phone to get alternative apps. But you're right, unlocking is less sexy for U.S. users... That's pretty much applies to alotta things here in the US.. We have the most advanced nerfed technology anywhere.. We want to be better, but not really per say.. |
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Trollhawk
join:2005-05-28
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Re: Who cares about 3G
I have an iPhone 3G, and the difference between 3G and EDGE is, perceptibly, like night and day. Imagine going back to dialup, when you're used to broadband, if that's easier for you to understand. Not only is there less bandwidth, but much more latency with EDGE, which makes Internet use unbearably slow, in comparison to 3G. It's not just Safari, either. Much of the iPhone's functionality is Internet-dependent, and 3G just makes for a much better overall experience. Oh, and even if I'm not even using the phone, I can tell when it drops to EDGE, when the EDGE frequencies start making other eletronics, nearby, make that horrible buzzing/beeping sound.
For customers who prefer to use T-Mobile, but want an iPhone, this can be good news(although, why wouldn't they already have a 1st-gen iPhone?), but don't downplay the lack 3G. |
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heat84
join:2004-03-11
Fort Lauderdale, FL | The iPhone devs themselves unlocked it
The iPhone devs themselves unlocked it (and announced it to the world)? Isn't that bad for their job security? Ok what am I missing? |
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PolarBear
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Re: Who cares about 3G
said by Trollhawk :but don't downplay the lack 3G. It's not that I don't think 3G is important, but to use your analogy, I just think it's akin to Hughesnet vs. dial-up. Sure, it may be a lot faster, but do you really want to pay that much more for such a shitty service?
said by Karl Bode in a different article :even though similar studies by firms like JD Power rank AT&T as mediocre to poor in everything from call quality to customer care Also, »blogs.zdnet.com/ITFacts/?p=14829
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3G speeds | | 
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said by PolarBear :But here in the States, your only GSM alternative to AT&T would be T-Mobile, whose 3G footprint is substantially smaller. And whose customer service and prices more than make up for it. Even if the 3G doesn't work at all. Wow, you love threads about the iPhone 3G. Easy to dismiss 3G when you don't have access to it.
So let's compare EDGE and 3G and you tell me who cares? Which would you rather have when downloading an application, streaming music etc?
Easy to dismiss something you don't have. With a smartphone I want speed and service, something I get with my provider.
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to heat84
Re: The iPhone devs themselves unlocked it
lol...the "iPhone Dev Team" is a group that calls themselves just that...they obviously are not affiliated w/Apple |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to PolarBear
Re: Who cares about 3G
"pay that much more"??? It doesn't cost any more. Data plans on ATT are the same whether you get 3G or edge...
That said it's amazing how people HERE of all places say "who cares about 3G"...I'm truly shocked. |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | reply to heat84
Re: The iPhone devs themselves unlocked it
"iPhone Dev Team" is not an official Apple group. |
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thevorpal
join:2007-11-16
Alexandria, VA
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Re: Isn't there only 2 GSM providers?
said by Karl Bode :Jail Breaking is not synonymous with unlocking... You can jail break the phone to get alternative apps. But you're right, unlocking is less sexy for U.S. users... That's exactly why I wasn't concerned when I upgraded to 2.2 I knew that I would be limited in my ability to unlock the iPhone, but I really didn't see it as all that big of a loss since I live in the US, and my next move is to a major metropolitan area.
Unlocking just wasn't that big of a feature to me. I'll likely hold off on the next baseband update just to be safe, but I'm not in any hurry to unlock, (I may not ever). |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to Karl Bode
Don't forget, T-Mobile's 3G network isn't spectrum compatible with iPhone.
iPhone = 3G 850/1900/2100 (international 2100 aka 1900/2100)
T-Mobile 3G = AWS spec = 1700/2100 3G |
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