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Comments on news posted 2008-12-18 12:49:36: Despite phone company best efforts to try and make landlines sexy, users are continually flocking away from traditional phone service and into the waiting arms of VoIP or wireless. The U.S. ..

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fiberguy
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Wanna make them sexy?

...stop bilking us out of money for a land line that they PROVE they can sell for less. And really.. what's up with $8 caller ID service?


TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
 Binge drinkers are young & stupid ....

... and it is the young that are all wireless. So the below statement makes some sense.

"wireless-only households are more likely to contain binge drinkers and smokers, compared with those having landline phones."

bgraham

join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY
What a waste of taxpayer's money.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have nothing better to do than studies like this?

ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Binge drinkers are young & stupid ....

Also, from work, I've observed that many low-income folks are only using cell phones, and smoking is more prevalent among low-income individuals.

Also, many college students don't get landlines because they're on their parents' family plans, and they don't want to get ripped off by university telecom departments, and college students tend to binge drink. The real danger for the phone companies is that, once these people leave college, they likely won't get landlines, meaning the base of landline users is aging and will eventually die off. If the phone companies want to retain their landline business, they need a big change in strategy. Bundling all the features provided by VoIP carriers at a similar price point would be my first thought.


fancydancer
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Of course I dont have a landline

How am I suppose to answer my home phone when I am binge drinking at the bar?
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amungus
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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Binge drinkers are young & stupid ....

And you're an old wiseguy?

I think it has more to do with a sense of freedom.
Younger people likely enjoy their freedoms, to drink, smoke, and use their phone wherever they want.

Who cares. Really.

Besides, landlines ought to be much cheaper by now. Much of the infrastructure has been paid for several times over, and much of the reason more people don't have them is that they realize the costs are inflated.

Landlines are great, sure. They're reliable as can be, sure. Their prices, however, are still insane for anything other than the most basic local only plans.

Long distance charges, especially in state, are ridiculous. Add all the other fees up, and it's far cheaper to just get a good wireless plan.

People, maybe younger ones in particular, would probably much rather spend some extra money on enjoying life, rather than wasting it on paying "Ma Bell" any more money than they absolutely have to.

Oh, that and they know that "the man" is totally full of it


baineschile
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reply to TKJunkMail
I am 27. Dont drink or smoke....and after I moved out of my parents at 19 years old, I have never had a landline.


jmn1207
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reply to TKJunkMail
I'm probably stupid. Would a stupid person be able recognize their own dumbness?

What is the cutoff date to still be considered young?

40+ born in the 60's is probably on the border. A type of purgatory between young and old.

I wouldn't consider myself to be a binge drinker, either. I'm more of a drunk. One long, slow soak for me. It's not my intention to get drunk, it's just a side effect of quaffing tasty beer or scotch.

jbowman

join:2004-01-20
Camp Hill, PA

reply to fancydancer
Re: Of course I dont have a landline

said by fancydancer See Profile :

How am I suppose to answer my home phone when I am binge drinking at the bar?
I was thinking the same thing lol. Don't forget chain smoking while binge drinking at the bar.


longstreet

join:2004-11-14
Plano, TX

Poor mans figures


statistically significant
I see we have some statistically significant information here about binge drinking and smoking among wireless users !

I've got some of my own statistics (thanks FSM)

ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

reply to fancydancer
Re: Of course I dont have a landline

And that's the problem with cell phones. People always expect you to be available. That's fine when a drinking buddy calls to go get a few beers, but it isn't so great when your moocher friend calls to ask for yet another loan.

With a landline, you can connect an answering machine, let it take the messages, then never call back.

ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT

uh

First of all, in my opinion, if someone switches their home number to voIP, it should still be considered a landline. Call it a "housephone" if you have to. Dialtone is dialtone, I dont care if its coming from a central office, ONT, or cable modem.

The vast majority of the FiOS installations I do are triple plays. Landlines or " housephones " are not going extinct. Families will always have one of these to represent their household, a number to reach anyone within the house.

Single people need a cellphone only, a phone that is with them at all times. This isnt rocket science.


NOVA_Guy
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reply to bgraham
Re: What a waste of taxpayer's money.

I'm with you on this one. I guess taxpayer money has to be wasted on something though, and this is better than spending on money to determine how much cow dung affects global warming.

Just get ready for more of this crap in the coming year as our government pushes us to reply to the upcoming census.
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fancydancer
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Re: Of course I dont have a landline

said by jbowman See Profile :

said by fancydancer See Profile :

How am I suppose to answer my home phone when I am binge drinking at the bar?
I was thinking the same thing lol. Don't forget chain smoking while binge drinking at the bar.
Ahh I wish. Illinois went smoke-free the start of the year.
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fancydancer
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reply to ISurfTooMuch
Don't discount the beauty of the 'ignore' or 'decline' option on cell phones. And there is always voice mail.
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itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA

Just went the other way

The wife's out of work and we blew through 1/2 our rollover minutes last month. So I signed up for ViaTalk and dusted the cobwebs off the cordless phones.

I looked at FIOS phone and it was insane - $40/mo for unlimited local/long distance + caller ID, etc...

$199 for 2 years, 2 lines and all the goodness from ViaTalk clinched the deal.

It may not be 100% reliable, but for the 0 times in 33 years I've called 911 from the home I'll live with it. For the most part over the past couple weeks it's been working great - pick up, dial and talk.

That's why landlines are declining - price....


Jim Gurd
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Plymouth, MI
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reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Binge drinkers are young & stupid ....

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

... and it is the young that are all wireless. So the below statement makes some sense.

"wireless-only households are more likely to contain binge drinkers and smokers, compared with those having landline phones."
Yes, but correlation does not imply causation.
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Richard B
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join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
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 Mincing the Facts

Bot the story and Karl mince facts to create a new story. First issue is the growth of wireless only households satill17% is hardly news. The second and greater issue is how wireless household are skewing polls. Since most pollsters calls only land lines. This is a big problem with political campaigning.


Karl Bode
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reply to bgraham
Re: What a waste of taxpayer's money.

I hate accurate health statistics and accurate polls!


Karl Bode
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Re: Mincing the Facts

Bot the story and Karl mince facts to create a new story.
Yes, well both Reuters and I are trying to trick the public into thinking landlines are slowly dying because we're joint-launching a combination VoIP carrier and dog-sitting service.
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