antwanp
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join:2002-05-14
Cedar Hill, TX
clubs:  | Hmm...
Is it wishful thinking to hope that TimeWarner's RoadRunner isn't on that 3 strikes list?
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Cause they lose every case they take to trial
And those they did win, ended up overturned and the RIAA has to reimburse those they sued. |
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Julio
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join:2003-03-19
Brooklyn, NY
clubs: | Andrew Cuomo is just like spitzer
Trying to use the AG position to become NY Governor. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
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join:2001-03-29
The Lou | No personal liability, no reason for ISP's to lose a RGU
So, it seems we're back to square one...and ISP's can start marketing again that HSI service is great for all sort of uses!
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | reply to antwanp
Re: Hmm...
Hows that change working for you? |
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Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs: | Hmmmm
"The plan's primary objective was to generate news coverage, scaring other P2P offenders into compliance."
More like extortion  |
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n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
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Re: Andrew Cuomo is just like spitzer
said by Julio  :Trying to use the AG position to become NY Governor. Until Caroline Kennedy became the chosen one, I figured Cuomo was in line to be Senator. I guess he will continue to be AG.
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Jason Levine
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USA
| Piracy Tax
If the RIAA gets a $5-10 piracy tax enacted onto ISP bills, look for the MPAA to jump on board followed by the BSA other content-provider organizations. Pretty soon, your ISP bill will double or triple in price because you are paying for piracy that you may or may not do.
I'm not a pirate, but if I'm forced to pay the RIAA $5-10 per month on the off chance that I'd pirate something, then you can bet that I'll start downloading music from P2P groups. This is only going to increase piracy, not decrease it.
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ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
| Master database
If such a scheme is going to work, it will require a master database of alleged file sharers, and whoever runs that database is going to be a huge lawsuit target. Sooner or later, someone is going to sue to demand conclusive proof that they shared copyrighted material, and then I wonder if this plan will run afoul of anti-collusion laws. |
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jam_bongo
join:2002-07-17
Toronto, ON
| i'd aplaud RIAA's sudden sanity except...
now they've gone from doing quasi-frivolous lawsuits with little to no proof, to either pressuring ISP's to do "three strikes" policies which will affect many more people in areas where broadband alternatives are slim. Or to pressuring the government to create a copyright tax/levy raising everyone's monthly bill even for Joe/Jane who only uses iTunes and has never even used a p2p client! |
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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| reply to Julio
Re: Andrew Cuomo is just like spitzer
said by Julio :Trying to use the AG position to become NY Governor. Or be appointed Senator from NY to replace Clinton. |
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wifi4milez
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join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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Re: Piracy Tax
said by Jason Levine :I'm not a pirate, but if I'm forced to pay the RIAA $5-10 per month on the off chance that I'd pirate something, then you can bet that I'll start downloading music from P2P groups. This is only going to increase piracy, not decrease it. Agreed. I dont pirate now (I use itunes), however if I was forced to pay for the "right" to pirate then it would technically no longer be pirating (it would then be content I was legally entitled to). The first result would be that it would put itunes out of business (so you can bet Apple will fight that tooth and nail), and then as you mention everyone would begin to download tons of content.
If they make people pay, then the entire "pay for content" market will disappear. That would be like giving people free bus passes and then hoping people will (for some reason) still want to pay the fare when they get on.
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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|  3 strikes enforcement voluntary but for common good
ISPs don't have to take this route; they're protected under safe harbor provisions within the DMCA. ISPs legally may not have to take part in 3 strikes type policies, but may decide to do so in the interests of their law abiding customers and for the common good.
Like a shopping mall may have security forces take part in suppression of shoplifting activities even though the individual stores are the ones being victimized and have ultimate responsibility for theft prevention. The mall, like an ISP, is providing a safe environment for honest commerce.
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deadzoned
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join:2005-04-13
Baton Rouge, LA
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| Stupid
These jerks are going to ruin the Internet as we know it due to their own selfish self-interests.
Filters will never work and are destined to fail. The 3 strikes policy is going to get sued out of existence and leave the ISP's holding the bag and wondering what happened. Who keeps the list and maintains it? Can you get off the list ever?
And that stupid pirate tax... Seriously?! Is it going to be opt in or opt out or will there even be a choice? What happens to all of the legitimate services that are already established like I-Tunes?
These people are going to run into a giant backlash of unintended consequences with this stuff. |
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Karl Bode
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Re: 3 strikes enforcement voluntary but for common good
ISPs legally may not have to take part in 3 strikes type policies, but may decide to do so in the interests of their law abiding customers and for the common good.
Like a shopping mall may have security forces take part in suppression of shoplifting activities even though the individual stores are the ones being victimized and have ultimate responsibility for theft prevention. The mall, like an ISP, is providing a safe environment for honest commerce. (In my best Christopher Walken True Romance voice): I love this guy....like a safe mall for "honest commerce"...priceless!
Who exactly in this safe mall of honest utopia ensures that BayTSP's data is accurate, that false positives aren't being applied, that consumers have grievances heard? Who pays for it? How do tiny carriers pay for it? Do they get sued if they don't play along? Who manages the master database required? How is that funded? |
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ross
join:2000-08-16
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Re: Andrew Cuomo is just like spitzer
said by Julio :Trying to use the AG position to become NY Governor. Cuomo isn't fit to be dogcatcher, but I'm sure he considers the governorship a hereditary office. He's just pandering to the Christian right "law and order" crowd without doing anything meaningful to curtail real crime, or promote the public weal. Metro District Attorney--->State AG--->Governor---> ??, is the usual path for the politically ambitious. |
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ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
| reply to Jason Levine
Re: Piracy Tax
You'd better believe it! And you can also be assured that people will start to state that, if they're forced to pay a "piracy tax", then downloading is now fine. Then the RIAA/MPAA, etc. will speak up and say it is still illegal, but they still feel people should be forced to pay this "tax". And if they think people hate them now, they ain't seen nothing yet. It's one thing to hate the RIAA in an abstract way because of their dealings with other people, but if people realize that they're taking money out of their pockets every month, they're going to hate them on a close personal level. |
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Riplin
join:2002-05-13
canada | Time will tell
So the isp's are gonna knock off their bread & butter over some mp3's? Riiiiiight! |
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micl
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join:2001-10-25
Silver Spring, MD
| Piracy Tax
So if the RI can't make money legitimately, they will get Congress to give them a "bailout" of sorts by enacting this tax? And now everyone's gotta pay whether or not they want what the RI has to offer? Ugh!
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