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Comments on news posted 2008-12-19 14:06:07: Facing a cash crunch? Don't like the bi-yearly price hike from your satellite, cable or telco operator? Tired of annoying fees? Only watch three of the three hundred channels you subscribe to? Sure, many of you figured out years ago that voice and vi.. ..
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 slimmy
join:2008-03-30 Idaho Falls, ID
·Packet8
| antenna only here. I did this about 2 years ago. Canceled dishnetwork and hooked up my 50 hdtv to my computer. Also went to radio shack and purchased a $70 antenna to pick up the hd stations. I get ABC, NBC,CBS,and PBS. Also I have a family member that used netflix, but doesn't use the online streaming so they let us use it.
No satellite bill here. | |
|   RRMAN Premium join:2007-04-02 Cleveland, OH | Whatever Yawn! This site is getting more boring by the minute. | |
|   WhyADuck Premium join:2003-03-05
| Dozens of FREE channels if you have view of southern sky I'm not going to say this too loudly but if you have room for a satellite dish and can see the southern sky, there are dozens of FREE channels to watch (even more if you speak Spanish). The thing is, you have to educate yourself about how to do it - it's not like you can go to a site and order a kit and just slap it on the roof (dishes should not be mounted on the roof unless there's a line-of-sight issue anyway - why do people allow satellite installers to make holes in their roofs when pole mounting is usually a far superior option?) and for the FREE channels you can NOT use old Dish Network or DirecTV equipment. To educate yourself, use your favorite search engine and search for things like FTA and Free-to-Air, and visit sites like Lyngsat (to see what's up there) or SatelliteGuys.us (Free-to-Air discussion). The one caveat is that since you aren't paying for the channels, they could disappear at any time, even though some of them have been there for several years now. One tip, if you don't want to waste money or get taken, expect to spend a minimum of one month (and probably more) learning about the topic before you spend so much as a single cent for equipment - and if you are the type that gets your kid to hook up your computer network or your TV system, then plan on spending a minimum of three to six months researching the topic before you buy anything! 
FTA was previously discussed on this site in this thread although some of the messages there made reference to using "hacked" firmware. Only despicable, lowlife, stupid thieves use hacked firmware (I say stupid because it voids your warranty, can turn your receiver into a useless brick, and even if you get it to work it will only work for a few days or a few weeks. Really dumb to ruin a perfectly good receiver so you can steal programming for a few weeks, while risking federal prosecution if you are discovered). But at the moment there are many UNscrambled stations that are free to watch, and perfectly legal. And that's all I'm going to say about it, you now have enough info to start the learning process! | |
|  |  vinnie97
join:2003-12-05 Mesquite, TX | Re: Dozens of FREE channels if you have view of southern sky Is any of the free content in HD? | |
|   Richard B Fur It Up
join:2007-06-22 Portland, OR
·Comcast
1 edit | Been There done That Years ago I used to be a cable hog with the roasting pan size converter, HBO and Encore. After a few $120 cable bill I said enough and downgraded to Cable brodband plus $8.00 basic. I only watch five hours of broadcast TV annually. The rest I watch streaming shows form Hulu.com, CBS or by the DVD. I might check out Netflix streaming.
This also should go against forcing the Cable companies to offer A la cate pricing. I say as cable and satellite loose subscribers, the cab companies will get the message they need to offer cheaper alternatives. Capitalism does work. | |
|  |  ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16 Stratford, CT
2 edits | Re: Been There done That Nothing will be accomplished EXCEPT raised rates for internet service OR CAPS. Regardless as to how many of you think this will bring prices down, the reality is cable and phone companies have networks to maintain and workers to employ. If revenue goes down due to TVip, caps and price increases will occur, guaranteed.
If everyone in the country switched to alternate VoIP carriers and downloaded their TV online, INTERNERT would likely cost between $150-$200 a month. Simple common sense. | |
|  |  |   AmericanCitizen
@hp.com
| Re: Been There done That The Cable Co ISP and Cellphone guys are doing that right now. Its going to happen whether you like it or not. They will charge what the market will bear. Its like the 50 cent pack of cigarettes. Everyone said that cigarettes would never be as expensive as they ar enow guess those who said that are "dead" wrong. Who would have thought a freakin pickp truck would run 40K or gas would be 4.50 a gallon. There will be a portionof the population that will pay fo rthe service even if its 150.00 for 1.5 DSL becuase of circumstances. The Caps are there and growing stronger by the minute the pricing of Internet access is a artifical barier. If you are one of the only players offering Internet in an area you can charge what the market will bear and people will pay it. | |
|  |  |  TheRandy
join:2008-10-21 USA
| No way. Streaming video does not work very well for those of us who depend on subtitles/closed captioning. Not one service, including Netflix (of which I'm a member of) has subtitles in English. Not one.
To me, online videos suck, and not in a good way. It's either pony up for cable television or do without. Sure, I rent vids from 'flix (as mentioned), but that doesn't replace the programs I like to watch.
Sure, I could go satellite, but I'm not paying the exorbitant installation fees and cost for a digital converter, when the digital box from Comcast takes care of that.
Give me a genuine online-TV service that provides CC/subtitles for most, if not all, programs, and I'll be interested. | |
|  |  Mark F
join:2007-08-01 Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: No way. Streaming video would be better if there was a simple, inexpensive way (or device) to get lots of internet content to a TV in another room- content from Blockbuster, Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, AOLTV, CBS, ABC, Fox, You Tube, and many others.
More people probably would watch movies and TV shows from the internet if they didn't have to watch on a small PC monitor and watching on anything bigger wasn't so costly and complicated for them. Mark F | |
|  |  |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO
| Re: No way. With computers coming with HDMI outputs, the complications pretty much just disappear. As far as expensive that depends on how much is expensive. If you look at the EEE box 204 it can play 1080P, runs on very little electricity(around 20W), and is about the size of a regular dictionary(last target I heard was $350). Its little brother the 202(DVI output) will play 720p(sub $300 now). I watch internet stuff on a 40 LCD in the living room. | |
|  |  |  |  Mark F
join:2007-08-01 Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: No way. Hooking a TV directly to a PC may work if you have an easy way to run long cables through your house, which is a drawback. There are also various boxes- Voodoo, Roku, Vunow Pod, but they are expensive and none of them handle all content.
I even saw a thing called SlingCatcher from Slingbox at Best Buy, which claims to work with Netflix, You Tube, Hulu, etc. But it isn't cheap, either, and you must run a cable from your router in another part of the house to the SlingCatcher in the livingroom, a drawback, too.
And, Verizon Fios TV has said they are working on a way to stream from the internet to a TV, using their DVR and their PC software. Someday.
So what is the easiest, most cost-effective way to stream movies, etc from the web to a TV. Mark F | |
|  |  |  |  |  RadioDoc 58ef2c0 Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: No way. You might want to go look again. Netflix's Roku device is a fairly inexpensive $99 and has built-in WiFi, which means the only wires you need are for AC power and the connection to the TV (which can be HDMI among other options). The device can output HD once Netflix implements that for streaming. | |
|  |  |  |  |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO
1 edit | Put a small computer right next to the TV. If you have a problem running cables (Ethernet) use wireless N(the EEE Box's I mentioned above come with wireless built in). Running Ethernet is really no different than running phone cable. The only "tough" part is putting on the ends. Since the tool is $30(?) ask around, you usually can borrow one (or buy somebody a six pack to come by and put the ends on for you). You would be amazed how handy it is to have an extra computer available that has net access. | |
|   Alex G Bell
join:2002-07-02 Boston, MA
| Off-Air Only Here Too Bought a deep fringe antenna on the internet and installed it in my attic. I now get a better (HDTV) picture than anything I have ever seen on cable or (mini-dish) satellite. Don't understand why people think they must have cable to get local channels.
Just try to find an antenna mounting bracket at a hardware store these days: even Radio Shack does not carry them anymore! -- "Remember, Comrade, people who are willing to destroy an efficient telephone system may not be playing with a full deck." | |
|   chRoniX10 Peace sells, but who's buying? Premium join:2004-05-22 Tarzana, CA | Torrents All you need is torrents... -- ~smooth operator~ | |
|  |  |   maartena Super Grover Premium join:2002-05-10 Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Not promoting piracy but.... ... I record all the TV shows I want to watch on my DVR and then watch em. But I know for a FACT that you can download pretty much any popular show from the major broadcast networks plus several cable networks (such as TNT, SciFi, etc) in 720p HD format right to your hard drive, using major torrent sites....
They are ready to play .avi files, commercials already cut out, and if you have a decent TV with a VGA port on it you can play em using any laptop. Or on the computer themselves.
I rarely use torrents myself, only when I missed a recording on my DVR and the show isn't available for play on the website of the network (like SciFi does with many shows), but I am still amazed how MANY TV shows you can download and watch.... some people apperantly have nothing better to do then to record them and distribute them.
I am not promoting piracy, but pirates have made it so easy now that if you were only keeping on cable TV (or satellite) for the few real good shows you watch, you can save a lot of money canceling cable/sat. -- "I reject your reality and substitute my own!" | |
|   VikingBob
join:2004-06-05 Ste Anne, MB
·MTS
| Dumped it years ago... I dumped cable a good 5 years ago. You pay way too much for the opportunity to sit there for half an hour, flipping through the channels, to ultimately discover that all that's on is crap. There are better things to spend $50 + a month on. The few channels that were worth watching require, of course, that you get the other two tiers first. Certainly not worth the money.
I now subscribe to Peasant Vision. (The ol' antenna on the roof.) That'll do me just fine... | |
|   Toropop
join:2001-11-11 Vancouver, WA
·Vonage
| A tiny secret... or not... I kept Comcrap's HSI out of necessity, but a lot of people don't realize that the premium you pay for not having cable with them actually INCLUDES basic cable. True story.
My neighbor across the street works for them and he let me know about it. I split the cable, plugged it into the back of my HD Ready plasma, and BINGO! Not only do I get the basic analog channels, I also get the digital AND HD channels.
The only sucky part is that I have a Series3 TiVo and it doesn't get the HD channels without the CableCard.
Bad times.
Good times: I don't have a $159 a month cable bill anymore. | |
|  |  dishrich
join:2006-05-12 Springfield, IL
| Re: A tiny secret... or not... said by Toropop :I split the cable, plugged it into the back of my HD Ready plasma, and BINGO! Not only do I get the basic analog channels, I also get the digital AND HD channels. I assure you this is NOT true for all folks - most cable co (including cc) put traps on your line if you downgrade to either NO TV or limited basic only. In my area, the ONLY thing you can still get WITH the full video trap is the local HD's ONLY - NO analogs at all. (except for 1-2 that might bleed through the trap) Evidently, you're the exception (or possibly your "neighbor" gave you a little help on this... ) | |
|  lightning10
join:2008-09-03 Whittier, CA
| OTA isnt good!! in my area Are family would dump Charter Analog Cable for are area but OTA SUCKS in my area of So Cal. I got a High Def Antenna I couldn't get jack in my area. I live on the valley floor near a bunch of hills. The Radio reception sucks, the Cell Phone reception sucks in my city no matter what phone/provider most people would agree, and the TV reception sucks as well.
A lot of people in my area complain that the converter box's do quite poor picking up the signals I think for my area that keeps a lot of people from getting rid of the cable. Its the same way where my Cousin lives in San Diego its like a total dead spot. You have to walk outside down the street to get reception because he lives between two canyons. | |
|  |  |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO
| Re: Whats really happening Your are going to have to explain who is loosing broadcast TV channel options. The switch to DTV has given me more channels not less.
Assuming you are talking about caps(you never really say), I would agree with you that we need to make it clear that we do not find caps to be acceptable. | |
|  |  |   ctceo Premium join:2001-04-26 South Bend, IN clubs:
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·AT&T U-Verse
·Comcast
·AT&T Midwest
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| Re: Whats really happening In my neck of the woods at least, everybody I know is going to be loosing channels, mostly due to geographical conditions or building design.
Me for example before the changeover have Channels 16, 22, 25, 28, 34, 46, 57, & 69. If I pick any tv in the apartment and plug an ATSC tuner box into it, and scan for channels, I'm lucky to get 3 or 4 channels. The SD channels come in 60% of the time, and the HD Channels come in 5% of the time if at all. When the good channels (if you could call blitting every 2 or 3 minutes or when somebody gets up to go to the bathroom acceptable) come in they aren't that bad.
Digital Channels in my area: WNDU 16.1-16.3 (.3 doesn't work yet) WSBT 22.1-22.3 (All three are online w/ weather) WMWB 25.1 FOX 28.1 WNIT 34.1-34.2 (currently only .1 is online) WHME 46.1 WBND 57.1 WRDY 69.1
In analog reception ALL channels come in, the worst being 69 cause it's out of Berrien Springs I think. If your out in the county with a 35 foot or higher outdoor antenna you can pull in 1 or 2 Chicago stations 11 & 19 I think from what my friend in New Carlisle, IN told me. -- YOUR ISP MAY BE CAPPING OR GETTING READY TO DO SO BY EARLY NEXT YEAR. LETS PUT A STOP TO THEM. »www.ipetitions.com/petition/PMDBI/ | |
|  |  |  |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO
1 edit | Re: Whats really happening Are you plugging an antenna into the digital tuner? From looking at tvfool using 46615 (I had to pick one) you should easily be getting: 16.1 22.1 28.1 48.1 34.1 23 27 49 18.1
What brand tuner did you try? It could be you got a lemon. | |
|  |  |  |  |   ctceo Premium join:2001-04-26 South Bend, IN clubs:
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1 edit | Re: Whats really happening I have 2 tuners, both work about the same as mentioned.
A Magnavox TB100MW9 & a RCA ATSC11
I've tried HD approved RCA Powered and Non-Powered antennas. An unbent paperclip works better usually.
One thing I have noticed is that when I get the channel I want to come in, when everybody is sitting still, I go to change the channel, and a couple others come in worse. It blitts ALL the time. Signal to no signal, frozen/blitted screens, stuttering audio, bleeps, peeps, and screeps.
It's mostly due to the building were in, and we have no other TV options here.
OH, Before I forget, we've been wanting to get an ATSC amplifier but they're a bit too pricey at the moment, but I haven't been able to try one of those yet.
-- YOUR ISP MAY BE CAPPING OR GETTING READY TO DO SO BY EARLY NEXT YEAR. LETS PUT A STOP TO THEM. »www.ipetitions.com/petition/PMDBI/ | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO
| Re: Whats really happening Ok any antenna that has HD approved or anything statement similar to it, is a joke(the statement). As far as the antenna is concerned there is zero difference between digital signal and analog signal.
Assuming that you cannot put something up on the roof, in the attic, or a regular antenna in the living room. You might try something like this:
www.winegard.com/mobile/roadstar.htm
The circular style RV antennas are about as unobtrusive as you can get, as far as things that actually work. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |   ctceo Premium join:2001-04-26 South Bend, IN clubs: 1 edit | Re: Whats really happening Would you recommend the 2000 or 1500? Provided I can find one for cheap. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | Re: Whats really happening Really could not recommend either (specifically) but with antennas size does matter. Therefore I would go with the 2000. It is 21 inch in diameter vs the 1500's 16X14.75 | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO
| Re: Whats really happening If you can mount it outside, then by all means do so. If you can use a regular antenna use it instead of the RV one. From what you said I did not think you could mount one outside. If you have the room, here is the one I would get:
»www.solidsignal.com/prod_display···googleps | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   ctceo Premium join:2001-04-26 South Bend, IN clubs: | Re: Whats really happening My landlord would have a coronary if they saw that hanging anywhere in the apt. lol. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO
| Re: Whats really happening Thats what I thought originally. The RV antenna is clean enough looking that most can live with it sitting around the (inside) of the apartment without it looking too bad. I would see if you can find one locally, that will let you return it. Try it and see if it works. If it works keep it or return it and get it cheaper elsewhere online. It is not unusual for a local shop to charge twice as much as online (even including shipping). While I do like to buy local there is a limit to how much I will put up with. | |
|  dishrich
join:2006-05-12 Springfield, IL
| these people did NOT know how to budget to begin with!!! (from the CNET article)
Top on the list of services to cut was the satellite TV package. James said she and her husband were spending $115 a month for their Dish satellite service, which gave them about 250 channels of programming. The thing I love about these doofuses, is that they it seems to be be either "feast or famine" with them. Who held a gun to their stupid heads & told them to take a $115 prog package! Obviously, you DON'T have to be a pig & take the BIGGEST package out there - just dumping all your premiums there alone would save over $35+/month. And obviously, there ARE smaller basic packages as well, that MANY folks survive on quite nicely.
I've been on D*'s Total Choice+ package w/lifetime DVR service for years now & I do NOT miss the premiums at all. I also wait until D* runs premium freebie weekends, or from when they have given me premium freebie trails & DVR bunches of movies to watch later; doesn't cost me a cent extra to do this. (when I just upgraded to my 2nd HD DVR, they even threw in HBO, MAX, Showtime & HD xtra pak f/3 months, which included many HD premium feeds) For $65/month, I really don't think you can beat it for what I'm getting - yea, of course there are some channels I never watch, but frankly, I do enjoy what I'm getting - not to mention all the HD stuff to boot!
And sorry, when I want to finally sit down & watch some TV at the end of the day, I want to pick up the DVR remote & just watch something that's been recorded & being able to skip ALL the commercials! I DON'T want to have to dick around with downloading, sitting at a PC &/or watching a subpar picture on a beautiful HD flat panel.
Now if you want to know what I find the REAL rip-off to be, let's talk about what I'm geting for my $49 half-ass Comcast internet service - unfortunately, it's the ONLY thing around here, other than wireless or sat. (we won't even go THERE!) | |
|   perki
join:2008-12-01 Santa Maria, CA | Just To Be Clear Here If you live in a big city DTV IS GOING TO BE GREAT. If you live in a small town, superb farm etc. DTV is going to suck. | |
|  |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | Re: Just To Be Clear Here If you live on a farm just put the antenna on top of the silo. | |
|   yolarry
join:2007-12-29 Creston, WV | HD is out. They should lower SD prices you think they would lower the price of SD.
time to go hack dish network...again. hehehe | |
|  tmc8080
join:2004-04-24 Floral Park, NY
| I predicted this years ago.. Well before the economy gave ordinary people the idea and the scope of content was available online that there is today.. I predicted exactly this. Cable's response? Head in the sand... delay docsis 3.0, throttle, send out piracy warning letters, in a few instances cut cutomers off for downloading too much. Those are not solutions to a much, much larger problem... the ability to continue monetizing cable-tv service. The cable industry continues to ponder the evolution of their video business model.. and taking no significant action(s).
If you think about it.. customers may just finally be realizing that they only watch abou 4-6 channels actively and scan the rest for something interesting. Then of the 4-6 maybe up to 30 hours a week of content with another 4-5 of the scanned content.. so if you can download 40 hours of video per week on your internet connection, your set. Where things become tricky are a family of 4 downloading 100+ hours of video... they're gonna need a bigger pipe... thus 50 - 100mbit comes into play... Once the ability to do this on that scale is available (more likely through a telco internet pipe, than a cable pipe, then the cable industry has big problem).
I believe AT&T and Verizon stand to gain, where the wider cable industry stands to lose over this issue. (just deserts for cannibalizing POTS with VOIP) Just because these telco providers SELL cable-tv content doesn't mean they are willing to cut their nose to spite their internet customer base. | |
|  |  Lazlow
join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | Re: I predicted this years ago.. I can see where Fios stands to gain, but how does ATT. ATT has all but said that they are going to cap. They still use copper. I really can see very little difference between cable and ATT respective stances. | |
|   The Joy of Cable
@comcast.net
| Xbox 360 I just canceled my Comcast cable TV service due to being laid off recently. I thought I'd try the new Netflix streaming to my Xbox 360 instead, and its not bad. Oh and its a lot cheaper than the $85 I was paying for cable TV.
But the reason I'll never go back to Comcast for TV service ever again, they charged me $40 to have my service shut off. They stated that they had to send a tech out to "tap" the line and another service fee on top of that.
After explaining I was laid off, and I was canceling due to that, she just shrugged and said "sorry". | |
|  ebubman
join:2002-01-17 Enola, PA
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·Vonage
| veddy eennteresting... veddy, veddy eenteresting thread. perhaps i missed it here but isn't there a website that you can use to plug in your address to see what ota channels you can get? i concur with many here who note that we ostensibly pay for many, many channels but in reality watch very few. btw, merry christmas to all. bub
p.s. "peasant vision" LOL! | |
|  |  Lyserjic
join:2002-07-02 Deer Park, TX
| Re: veddy eennteresting... I dumped TV from Comcast 6 months ago. Got a homebrew UHF antenna mounted in my attic, pulls in all my digital HD locals with amazing quality. OTA HD picture quality cannot be beat. The attic antenna, paired with an HD Tivo + Amazon & Netflix, I'm saving at least $80 a month now. Plus, I only pay $1.99 once a week for the two non-network shows I watch. (My adult child pays the Netflix bill as part of her rent )
Just didn't make sense to keep feeding Comcast $130 a month.
-L
said by ebubman :veddy, veddy eenteresting thread. perhaps i missed it here but isn't there a website that you can use to plug in your address to see what ota channels you can get? i concur with many here who note that we ostensibly pay for many, many channels but in reality watch very few. btw, merry christmas to all. bub p.s. "peasant vision" LOL! | |
|  mrvid
join:2007-06-19 Levittown, NY
4 edits | everyone I know whos struggling ditches their cell instead.. My take on all of this....
I get the feeling that these companies will start instilling caps not just for bandwidth but to make sure people are using the net for high speed internet enjoyment, not alternative cable over internet. My impression is that most customers do not want their cable service thrown in the garbage and thats where it would end up.
Why do you think same day local sports programming is not offered on the net, whats the point of offering it on cable if people can just get it on the net.
Problem with this model is, now you have duplicated services, wasted resources and a reason to throw away part of your net's bandwidth. What you would likely see is higher prices to use the net, cable tv in the garbage and now your stuck with whatever your getting over this glorious net tv alternative..notttt.
Talk about getting milked, lets pretend this happened and now its 10 years later. Let me paint the picture I see.. cable is gone, the phone is gone, everyone uses iptv & voip over the net, now the net is $80/mo for 50/20, or $100/mo for 100/50, you think cheaper, well maintaining this network isn't cheap. Hey, that fiber line, whether 300chs, HSI & phone or just HSI alone are offered, it still costs the same to keep up. Hmmm wonder what programming there is to watch, maybe a disney movie- why, disney's not making any money, you took their bread&butter away, why put programming on the net for nothing.. hmm netflix, well netflix is not going to give it for free.. looks like at least $100/mo for netflix & the net with no cable or phone.. phone service from a voip provider?? hmm.. hope a blackout doesn't come anytime soon but then who cares right, its all about saving a buck, not about reliability... does anyone see where i'm going with this cause i'd rather we all see it now then live it later.
This is what I did & just about everybody I know who is struggling has went this way instead, I am not saying to do this, I am saying I needed to do this.. Fact is, things are pretty tight for me & I had to drop all my cell phones for prepaids except for one at its lowest minutes, yeah they have cool features but I can't afford them, hard choices. Knock on wood, haven't had to do this but if it was even worse; sign up for the cheapest voip phone service if things were that tight though normally would still rather have a regular phone and heyyyy now I can keep my hbo, my showtime, my vod, my net.. I've cut going out to the movies most of the time, don't go bowling or eat out that much, I don't want to lose all my enjoyment, now I can at least enjoy an array of things at home most of the time.. by the way, I do have netflix, its not enough & its glitchy wireless sometimes in just SD & it takes time to movies in the mail; I love it but I wouldn't want to rely on it as my sole source for entertainment. If I could, I would take the providers phone service, that way, I get a battery in case of power failure (at least, FIOS offers this, I don't know who else does) & I kind of like getting the callid on my TV, something I think they will be coming out with soon. | |
|   lost_soul
@pacbell.net
| Television is dead. I personally would never pay $50 a month to have an outrageous amount of advertising stuffed down my throat. If people pay for TV service, they shouldn't have to sit through so much garbage. This is why (to me at least) television is dead. I get all my entertainment from the Internet. From multi-player games to great podcasts to news that isn't corrupt and one-sided, it's all here and unlimited.
I'm also boycotting the film industry because I think they're scum and they repeat themselves worse than a broken record. Do the good guys REALLY have to win in every movie? | |
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