TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·Comcast
|  Content drives the cost structure
As long as the content costs are the driving force behind most price increases, all players(sat,cable,telco) will raise prices all the time. Competition between delivery companies isn't going to affect price very much. The place that could really affect price is in Hollywood where the real monopoly lies.
And as long as people whine and complain to Congress every time a cable company cuts off a channel(any channel) because they don't want to pay the exorbitant price to Hollywood, that is the way things will stay.
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lil confused
@spcsdns.net | Could you explain your comment further, please? |
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Lyserjic
join:2002-07-02
Deer Park, TX
| uverse rates
No one should be surprised by this. It's standard operating procedure for video providers. 
I went with HD-OTA and a TivoHD 7 months ago. $150 a month for TV service is flat out crazy. Netflix streaming and Amazon downloads are much cheaper. $2 a pop for 2 once-weekly TV shows that aren't OTA sure beats $150 for all those channels I never used. Having Netflix on the Tivo now makes it even better.
I'm less than 1000-feet from the VRAD that would service my home. I would switch from Comcast to uVerse for internet access if ATT's data caps were on par with Comcast (250GB). My daughter uses the Amazon video and Netflix constantly. I'm probably close to the 150GB/month ATT caps now.
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·Comcast
| said by Lyserjic  :$2 a pop for 2 once-weekly TV shows that aren't OTA sure beats $150 for all those channels I never used. But your TV viewing habits aren't the average American. The average person in the US watches TV 28 hours/week. Have a household with the average 4 people and that is a lot of TV and a lot of different channels. So you have to look at that cost per person and NOT just per household.
»www.csun.edu/science/health/docs···tv_stats
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MySay
join:2008-04-08
Mansfield, TX
| Paying to watch commercials...
I cancelled their services a few months ago. It seemed I was paying every month to watch what appeared to be an ever increasing amount of crappy commercials/infomercials, etc.
In today's economy, in most households, I'd assume that TV would be the first drop when it came to consolidating your expenses. The fact that during this time, all these "players" are increasing their rates are mind boggling!
There's just about absolutely NOTHING you can watch on TV, that you can't find to stream on the internet these days. Sure, the quality may not be "on par"... but for the price to quality ratio, I'll stick w/ streaming. |
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Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
1 edit | $7 a box?
And they are planing to have deals next year with direct tv that only makes you pay $5 a box after the first one?
U-verse used to have free boxes not they are just as bad as cable. |
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Endgame
Your member at work
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join:2005-07-07
USA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to MySay
Re: Paying to watch commercials...
I give you a big thumbs up for making me see the light and I thank you sir! After 2008 I won't be paying for any TV programming anymore as I will be canceling $Comcast$ CATV soon. I was thinking about switching to U-verse to save some dough but $at&t$ thinks just like comcast so there's no point now. TV is nothing but commercials and infomercials now anyways so it isn't worth it anymore. Greed ruins evrything again.
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seant169
join:2003-07-21
Forney, TX
·AT&T DSL Service
·Suddenlink
| rate hikes
not surprised AT&T does nothing but lie and cheat just like all the other phone companies. AT&T should not say in their commercials
"This is not a introductory offer" in saying this they leave themselves open for a lawsuit
the people love at&T that are old and ignorant of technology advancements still use the lan line from aT&T are the most taken advantage of.
50 60 80 dollars just for phone service and 30.00 tax and fees Where does that money go?? |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Content drives the cost structure
You can't claim that. My cable company has not raised rates for years and years. We even have roughly 8 Big Ten Networks and have not seen a raise in prices to bring them. We're also one of the fastest HSI areas in Ohio. at 20meg /1meg being the highest tier available. We also have some of the lowest rates in the country.
Your comment about content costs driving force is moot. Providers raise rates to raise them. Not because programing costs go up. |
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TheyEatMoney
@pacbell.net | reply to Joe12345678
Re: $7 a box?
They'll do anything for more mullah because it is the only thing that matters to them in the entire uni-verse.  |
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asdfdfdfdfdfdf
@Level3.net
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GlassRail
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Content drives the cost structure
I'm inclined to agree.
It would be interesting to see some graphs of content costs to these companies alongside pricing to customers. |
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Chaldo
join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI
1 edit | $7 a freaking TV...
Yeah I got 5 tvs in this house not happening, Companies went from subscriptions to charging you a high rate on every TV you want to watch on... What are they going to do next? Charge you for how much time you spent on each tv after that.. ahahahahah its just new ideas for them !! I will probably never go with u-verse.
I Miss the days where you ordered standard cable, and hooked the cable in the back of the tv and there was all you're channels.. stupid channel ads going to digital!!. |
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Dittohead
@rr.com
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Re: uverse rates
said by TKJunkMail :said by Lyserjic :$2 a pop for 2 once-weekly TV shows that aren't OTA sure beats $150 for all those channels I never used. But your TV viewing habits aren't the average American. The average person in the US watches TV 28 hours/week. Have a household with the average 4 people and that is a lot of TV and a lot of different channels. So you have to look at that cost per person and NOT just per household. » www.csun.edu/science/health/docs···tv_stats And while your source may be reputable it still fails to show the average user doesn't watch all 280 channels 28 hours a week.
So logically the price model should be ala cart since 28 hours might be CNN/ESPN/FOX/HGTV.... or what ever the combination.
Viewers only need to pay for what they watch not a bunch of channels they may never watch.
If you did see this prices might go up but, it would benefit the subscriber and yes the content provider would get more revenue since users are not forced to pay for channels they don't watch.
You might do well thinking more logically not by your own viewing habits, that said if you yourself watch 280 channels all month every month. |
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rsmith7
Premium
join:2003-03-11
San Diego, CA | Golden Goose
So even Att could not resist the golden goose (the consumer). I guess this is why I have not signed up. The into pricing was only going meet up with cable or satellite pricing. |
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Dittohead
@rr.com
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Re: $7 a freaking TV...
said by Chaldo :Yeah I got 5 tvs in this house not happening, Companies went from subscriptions to charging you a high rate on every TV you want to watch on... What are they going to do next? Charge you for how much time you spent on each tv after that.. ahahahahah its just new ideas for them !! I will probably never go with u-verse. I Miss the days where you ordered standard cable, and hooked the cable in the back of the tv and there was all you're channels.. stupid channel ads going to digital!!. Over the air FREE HDTV is starting to look a lot more appealing isn't it? |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: Content drives the cost structure
AT&T is raising prices on already high priced services faster then cable..... seems like we have a race to see just how much the market will bear. It's great having little or no competition.
Seems like the states should consider yanking those statewide franchises since there's nothing in it for their citizens.
Meanwhile on "It's all the content" argument, I notice DirecTV and DISH prices haven't moved in awhile....
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computerman2
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join:2002-04-20
Rockwood, MI
·AT&T Midwest
| att rates
I have Myself at&t land line, long distance, dsl, at&t branded dish network and at&t wireless(formerly cingular) Suppose when uverse comes around this area will look into it and what packages are offered
As for the landline rates--not bad at all, around 40-50 something a month, 12 something for long distance, and bill is usually around same price every month.
I'm sure we're gonna keep our land line ourselves--reliable when power goes out, during power outages etc, can voice over ip have that reliably, it's not just old folks keeping there land lines, it's also young people in terms for safety.
until voip can show the reliablty as land line, no chance of switching here myself
we had voice over ip when we had cable internet at old house--internet went down(Cable) like always, phone was out for 6 hours, what happened if we had to call 911? and power was out, so chouldn't charge cell phone either. So for us keeping all our at&t stuff very good idea |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to KrK
Re: Content drives the cost structure
if Ohio pulled their state agreement ATT would be the first to pull out. Especially in Toledo. Buckeye would even go around and help the City and State go around and yank the VARDs out of the ground. |
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megarock
join:2001-06-28
Saint Louis, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| Price increases
Price increases occur mostly because the providers want to make more money. Period. And they will continue to do that so long as we have to buy 'cable service' instead of a la carte programming where I only pay for something I want and don't pay extra for 55 channels I have no intention of watching.
And that's the reason why those same companies are so animate about not operating with that type of business model. |
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Millenniumle
join:2007-11-11
Fredonia, NY
| reply to Endgame
Re: Paying to watch commercials...
Spend a weekend mounting an antenna and you still have tv, in HD no less. 
OTA really needs to get their marketing going. Their new found ability to multicast and provide clear digital picture and sound is nothing short of revolutionary. I've been one happy camper since I hooked my antenna back up. |
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