dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Fail!
This has EPIC written all over it!
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N10Cities
SILENCE I Keel You
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join:2002-05-07
Roland, OK
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1 edit | said by dadkins  :This has EPIC written all over it! Possibly, but still better than people receiving lawsuits..... |
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ViRGEdx
join:2002-10-25
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Epic? Sure. But I don't think it'll fail.
The RIAA will eventually get enough data to convince the ISP beancounters that they're going to save more money than acting on these requests will cost*. There's a finite list of ISPs, and an even smaller list of good ones; this system doesn't have to be perfect to scare people away from pirating materials.
*think of all the Comcast subscribers that hit near their cap; that's 250GB of backhaul traffic you save on every time you can a $50 customer |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
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but it also depends on ISPs running a database, someone gets dropped by comcast do you honestly think ATT/Verizon will turn down a high use customer that will buy their most expensive speed tiers.
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ViRGEdx
join:2002-10-25
| said by Kearnstd :but it also depends on ISPs running a database A database is an optimality thing, but it's not necessary. Once you get blacklisted by your cable and DSL providers separately, most people won't have any other good choices. |
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BetaTron
Sinz
Premium
join:2002-08-18
Brooklyn, NY
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said by dadkins :This has EPIC written all over it! +1
I'm so tired of this nonsense. They (the four letter acronym people) seem to have all the answers but they can't figure out a way to deliver truly quality content when we want it and how we want it, at a fair price of course. |
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kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
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said by ViRGEdx :*think of all the Comcast subscribers that hit near their cap; that's 250GB of backhaul traffic you save on every time you can a $50 customer That is assuming the ISP's pay by the gigabyte. Which they do not.
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nothing00
join:2001-06-10
Centereach, NY
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Two interesting side effects
1) People sitting on the fence about pirating now have a green light to pirate until they get a notice in the mail.
2) Are you "banned for life"? Sure, there's getting kicked off of "your ISP" but is the sentence a life sentence? Can you resubscribe at a later time? Are you put on an Orwellian blacklist and banned from all broadband everywhere? Does everyone in your household get denied broadband forever?
That would be sooooo cool. |
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Endgame
Your member at work
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join:2005-07-07
USA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
1 edit | reply to BetaTron
Re: Fail!
Don't worry peeps, they'll get what's coming to them when the economy goes belly up next year and people stop giving them money all together. Evil always knows how to shoot itself in the foot feet. 
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SolarPup
IT Geek-Dawg
Premium
join:2002-03-07
The Pound
clubs: | Sheesh
Gotta love how RIAA and MPAA think they can just control ISP's.. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
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Re: Two interesting side effects
said by nothing00 :1) People sitting on the fence about pirating now have a green light to pirate until they get a notice in the mail. 2) Are you "banned for life"? Sure, there's getting kicked off of "your ISP" but is the sentence a life sentence? Can you resubscribe at a later time? Are you put on an Orwellian blacklist and banned from all broadband everywhere? Does everyone in your household get denied broadband forever? That would be sooooo cool. that would pretty much be impossible since the ISP has no way to know the SSNs of other people in the house. so if the kid moves out it would be impossible for him to be blacklisted since his SSN was never on the services.
of course the fact everything in life is locked to SSNs is a whole different issue that needs to be resolved well before we worry about non economy effecting things like The Pirate Bay.
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MooJohn
join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA
·Windstream
| Accusation = Guilt?
I want to know how any company can justify canceling service based on accusations. I demand proof and a finding of guilt by a court of law. Anything less is just hot air and they had better not touch my account. A couple of high profile lawsuits vs. ISPs should fix this if it ever comes to fruition.
BTW, I haven't DL'ed anything since Napster's heyday because I simply don't like any of today's artists. I leave my Sirius set to the 80s channel and I couldn't be happier. I wait until Hollywood's horrible remakes make it to TV if I want to see them -- there's no hurry to see anything they've turned out lately.
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dumwaldo
Premium
join:2001-03-12 | Terrorism anyone?
I thought trying to manipulate peoples behavior with the use of fear was terrorism and America does not support terrorism.
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ztmike
Mark for moderation
Premium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN | RIAA=Over-priced goods
I'm surprised people are still buying the RIAA's over priced shit.
Maybe some day the average Joe will wake up |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to Kearnstd
Re: Fail!
Nope. The big ISPs are whores. They will take any customer for any reason. At their size they only care about subscriber numbers because their model makes more money in volume, not per subscriber profits. |
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mod_wastrel
join:2008-03-28 | So...
When it costs only $5-$10 per month (via this extortion "licensing" fee) to download all of the movies you might want to see, then who'd need to bother with premium movie channels or pay-per-view? |
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kherr
Premium
join:2000-09-04
Collinsville, IL
clubs: | So what happens to the many if not majority of people that don't download music or movies. Why should I and the other have to subsidise someone elses problems ??? |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
Premium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
| If the **AA's do get their way and are able to line to pockets of enough politicians to get the "tax" idea to pass, does this legally mean that people can download all the movies and music they want? Or you you think there will be some sort of "fine print"? |
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jacour
join:2001-12-11
Ypsilanti, MI
·Comcast
| Not happening
This is not going to happen, mainly because it screws up the ISP business model with no payback for them. If the customer reaches the "third strike" who loses the revenue - the MPAAS or the ISP? Is the MPAA going to pay the cost of running this monitoring system? Is the MPAA going to get the ISP to impose a license fee and then not share it? Can triple play companies still charge hefty PPV fees when the users can just download the content legally?
Just too many downsides for the ISP industry without any discernable upside. It is all about distribution; the ISP has it and the MPAA does not. It sucks to be them. |
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zalternate
join:2007-02-22
BC
·TELUS
| Law. Court. Judges.
Law. Court. Judges.
A basis of our modern society.... Well, not anymore. Fascism rules the roost. You are convicted on the spot.
It's the roaring 20's again and the Mafia is getting going.
Has no one in Government learned from history? Other than kickbacks and bribes.
An ISP user tax is flawed in that it automatically accuses all users of filesharing violations(like police roadblocks accuse every driver of drinking alcohol). If one user out of ten thousand has broken a law, then that user must be brought to court to face punishment(provided that the evidence was gathered in a 'legal' manner). And in these cases, the Judge rules about no Internet use for a set time and then jail time if the 'crime' is severe enough.. |
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