  antwanpBeyond FM, Beyond AM, XM Satellite RadioPremium
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1 edit | Message... When I was watching videos on »www.mtvmusic.com a message popped up warning about this. I didn't know if it was popping up for everyone or just people on TimeWarner/BrightHouse connections.
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Lake City, FL | Re: Message... said by antwanp:When I was watching videos on » www.mtvmusic.com a message popped up warning about this. I didn't know if it was popping up for everyone or just people on TimeWarner/BrightHouse connections. I have Comcast service, and I also got the scroll regarding this at the bottom- I'd imagine TW/Brighthouse wouldn't let it be exclusive to their own network.
The ad said something like "call 1800 ? for brighthouse and 1800 ? for time warner and DEMAND (all caps) your nick network channels, must be 18 to call". | |
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: Message... Considering that it is Viacom, I'm surprised they aren't advertising a 1-900 number for a buck a call, or wanting you to text message for a similar fee...
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Limbo | I noticed the message this morning on Comedy Central. If I were impacted by this, Comedy Central is the only one I'd particularly miss. I don't watch the others very often at all.
Viacom should probably understand that in order to make demands you have to have collateral to back up those demands.
I say good for Time Warner for standing up to these cash grabbing idiots. Time Warner should counter offer that they'll continue carrying those channels only if Viacom REDUCES the costs by the same amount they're asking to increase.
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Camden, TN | Re: Message... said by fireflier:I noticed the message this morning on Comedy Central. If I were impacted by this, Comedy Central is the only one I'd particularly miss. I don't watch the others very often at all. Viacom should probably understand that in order to make demands you have to have collateral to back up those demands. I say good for Time Warner for standing up to these cash grabbing idiots. Time Warner should counter offer that they'll continue carrying those channels only if Viacom REDUCES the costs by the same amount they're asking to increase. HAHA TW shill.
TW wanting to save customers money? You mean by capping internet at 40 GB then charging $1 per GB overage? Watch your rates go up when scores of TW customers flock to DirecTv or Dish Network. | |
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1 edit | Re: Message... Look at my previous posts and you'll soon realize how stupid your assumption that I'm a TW shill is.
I'm as annoyed as anyone about the ridiculous caps they're considering but I also give credit where credit is due.
Next time do some research before you blindly call people shills who don't agree with your every viewpoint or hatred.
Incidentally, I said nothing about TWC saving anyone money, I said I was glad they were standing up to cash grabbing idiots. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Message... said by fireflier:Look at my previous posts and you'll soon realize how stupid your assumption that I'm a TW shill is. I'm as annoyed as anyone about the ridiculous caps they're considering but I also give credit where credit is due. Next time do some research before you blindly call people shills who don't agree with your every viewpoint or hatred. Incidentally, I said nothing about TWC saving anyone money, I said I was glad they were standing up to cash grabbing idiots. Yes a whooping 23 cents per month. How in the world can a TW afford that? the fact is TW raises rates anyways. the fact you deny that makes you a shill. So STFU. | |
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1 edit | Re: Message... Based on your dubious reasoning, you must be a Viacom shill then. | |
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| | | | If the channels get pulled, will TW lower my cable bill? Somehow, I don't think so. | |
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Hendersonville, NC | Re: Message... said by HMMM :
If the channels get pulled, will TW lower my cable bill? Somehow, I don't think so.
I wouldn't expect any sort of bill decrease unless the decision is made not to get those channels back. If the channels are gone for only a couple days, it wouldn't be a big enough deal cost wise for any meaningful rate decrease.
On the flip side... if those channels went away and didn't come back, that would free up a lot of bandwidth that could be used to provide additional channels. What's better, is that some of those channels are still provided in Analog (MTV and Nick in particular are still analog in most of the country), Then TWC frees up 2 analog channels without having it be "their fault", which can then be used for the "up to 24 SD channels, or 4-6HD channels.. or any combination thereof." | |
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join:2001-01-26
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1 edit | Actually - TWC is raising rates... and possibly removing these channels. I've already lost FX here - TWC 'decided' (they don't even know about it really) that FX is ok on digital, but gone on analog, and replaced with 'Sleuth'. | |
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Do people finally see now that THIS is why a la carte isn't happening? It's because the content providers do not want to sell their channels to individual customers. They want to sell them to ALL customers, regardless if they watch them or not. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: Message... said by skuv :said by en102:Actually - TWC is raising rates... and possibly removing these channels. Do people finally see now that THIS is why a la carte isn't happening? It's because the content providers do not want to sell their channels to individual customers. They want to sell them to ALL customers, regardless if they watch them or not. Yup. A La Carte programming would cause individual channels to cost more than bundled. Advertisers would flock to popular channels, and whole blocks of channels would possibly go under. Eg. channels like ESPN would lose half their base. Most 'junk' channels would be gone immediately. I'd expect Viacom individual channels to be more expensive than the bundle if it were ever sold (eg. MTV $10 or Viacom bundle for $7
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Sadly, this blackmail usually works. When the cable subscriber (or Satellite) turns on their system and finds out the show/channel they wanted is blacked out, they call in raising hell about the Earth and the Moon will soon pass away and how it better be back on ASAP and I want credits on my bill etc etc
Result is, Cable Co/DBS/Whoever then cave in to subscriber complaints pressure.... And then you get a $4 a month increase on your bill in 3 months.... and the customers bitch about that too.
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Camden, TN | Re: Message... said by KrK:Unfortunately much of the public consumer isn't nearly as informed as you are..... Sadly, this blackmail usually works. When the cable subscriber (or Satellite) turns on their system and finds out the show/channel they wanted is blacked out, they call in raising hell about the Earth and the Moon will soon pass away and how it better be back on ASAP and I want credits on my bill etc etc Result is, Cable Co/DBS/Whoever then cave in to subscriber complaints pressure.... And then you get a $4 a month increase on your bill in 3 months.... and the customers bitch about that too. Why would a cable company raise rates $4 a month when Viacom is only asking for 23 cents more? Hmmmmmm. | |
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| Re: Message... said by BF69:Why would a cable company raise rates $4 a month when Viacom is only asking for 23 cents more? Hmmmmmm. Time Warner says they want between 22 to 36% more.... So that would mean that if Viacom's claims are true, that currently MTV, Nickleoden, Comedy Central, etc etc only cost 75 cents a month for all Viacom channels. That seems very unlikely.
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|  coldmoonPremium
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Though I have DirecTV, the loss of these channels would not even be noticed here. The only channel worth considering is Comedy Central and then only because of John Stewart and Steven Colbert. As both publish their content on the Internet, what would really be lost if those channels just went *poof!*?
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: Message... You could safely say that about 90% of cable channels...
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Hendersonville, NC | Re: Message... said by Barb2331 :I checked with Time warmer and yes we are loosing 18 channels due to a .25 cent per paying consumer..This will suck! Keep in mind that this is .25 per paying customer per month.... for channels that most of them hardly get any real viewship. (Who's really going to miss mtv5?)
There's also the fact that if TWC folds to their demands, it sets a bad precident. "ok, .25 cents more isn't a good deal for our customers considering what they are already paying for these stations, but we don't want to lose these channels, so we'll pay it." Then the contract runs out on another big carrier's packages, like ABC/Disney, who see how easily Viacom got what they wanted, so they raise their rates by $1. Then Viacom comes up for renewal again and they say, "We got what we wanted last time by threating to pull the stations, so we want another $1.30 per customer, or else!"
The line has to be drawn someplace, and notice how even Viacom's statement doesn't say how much they are really asking for. They say maybe 22-35% more than what they are getting now... but is it a contract that has an annual increase of that percentage built in? or a 1 year contract that will have them asking for the same percentage increase next year? Even what you pay the MSO only tends to go up by 2-3%, yet Viacom appears to be going for a much larger percentage in their increase... obviously they are going after more than just "their fair share of TWC's profits."
(Also interesting to note...There was mention of TWC wanting a cut of viacom's online ad pie.... but nothing about the details. Was it's TWC's counter offer? Technically viacom having full episodes on their site could easily be dropping actual live viewership, which in turn could be hurting the income generated from TWC's ability to place local ads on the channel (which help subsidize the cost of carrying the programming). It could also have been something TWC was looking at as a way of helping to lower the increase that would be passed along to consumers in the form of a rate increase by using it to subsidize the costs. "Ok... we'll pay the extra 30% per sub, but we want 5% of the online ad revenue" | |
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Clarksville, TN | Remember I remember when Viacom pulled this shit with Dish Network in summer 2003. Viacom was forced to capitulate demands. It took them 4 days to pull their head out of there ass. | |
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Whittier, AK | 5 freaking Mtv channels! I miss the 80's The channels that would be affected are: Comedy Central, CMT: Pure Country, Logo, Palladia, MTV, MTV 2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tr3s, Nickelodeon, Noggin, Nick 2, Nicktoons, Spike, The N, TV Land, VH1, VH1 Classic, and VH1 Soul.
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kudos:1 | Re: 5 freaking Mtv channels! I miss the 80's Greed, just pure greed a big reason why parents get cable is because of their kids can watch nick. | |
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|  beerbumobscurum per obscuriusPremium
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Seriously, though, he loves all the shows on Noggin and will probably complain that he can't watch the new "Toot and Puddle", "Yo Gabba Gabba", or "Max and Ruby." However, we have enough shows DVR-d to satisfy him for some time and he can always switch to Disney Channel or to a DVD.
Other than Noggin, I really don't care about the other channels. (I do watch Comedy Central from time to time, but not enough to notice right away if it goes off the air.) | |
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Limbo | Re: 5 freaking Mtv channels! I miss the 80's Kids have short memories. He'll forget he ever watched Noggin within 3-6 months. 
If you're really worried, start taping them now and then just play them back on an endless loop. He'll never catch on.
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Forest, OH | I don't watch a single one of those channels. I would love for dish to pull these channels and let me replace them with ones that I want. | |
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kudos:1 | The only one is would miss would be spike, otherwise TWC would actually be doing a service to there subscribers by removing the others. | |
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| | | | Re: 5 freaking Mtv channels! I miss the 80's That is funny - pretty egocentric. It will effect OTHERS with different OPINIONS. | |
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| Re: 5 freaking Mtv channels! I miss the 80's said by athena :
That is funny - pretty egocentric. It will effect OTHERS with different OPINIONS.
So your saying i cant have my OPINION ? You might want to check a word called sarcasm. It defines alot of speech. | |
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|  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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Alexandria, VA | said by caco:The channels that would be affected are: Comedy Central, CMT: Pure Country, Logo, Palladia, MTV, MTV 2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tr3s, Nickelodeon, Noggin, Nick 2, Nicktoons, Spike, The N, TV Land, VH1, VH1 Classic, and VH1 Soul. Damn... Not a single worthwhile channel in their lineup. Viacom could turn into a smoking hole in the next 5 seconds and I'd likely never even notice.
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| | | said by caco:The channels that would be affected are: Comedy Central, CMT: Pure Country, Logo, Palladia, MTV, MTV 2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tr3s, Nickelodeon, Noggin, Nick 2, Nicktoons, Spike, The N, TV Land, VH1, VH1 Classic, and VH1 Soul. What they need to do is put them in there own tier then we would see just how much they are worth. Only those that want like 10 Music TV channels would have to pay for it. This is why pay TV is going to pot. Way to many junk channels forced on the end user at too high of a price in the end. We need to get back to different levels of standard TV like $20, $30 and $40 dollars basic packages then the "all you can eat" packages for those who need it.
Same with HSI. It is not right to give someone 20mbps and cap at 5 or 40 gig and also charge them like 50 or 60 bucks. It should be no more then 25 buck to just check e-mail and very little surfing.
We all know what is really happening here, ISP cap so you don't start getting your TV over your HSI connection and drop yout TV package as most channels can be had for free over the internet. The ISP wants part of the inernet TV pie also. Everyone wants are money, but some of us have many more choices then others and that is what make this whole mess unfair to some.
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| Re: 5 freaking Mtv channels! I miss the 80's said by mmainprize:We all know what is really happening here, ISP cap so you don't start getting your TV over your HSI connection and drop your TV package as most channels can be had for free over the internet. The ISP wants part of the internet TV pie also. Just thought I would quote this, because it's dead on!!
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Kernersville, NC | Looks like they are putting the warning up on all Viacom web
Warning |
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kudos:2 | Re: Looks like they are putting the warning up on all Viacom web This is hilarious, this message is being put up in their web page which was caused by them in the first place. | |
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| TW has already announced my cable is going up in January I already pay a lot of money every month for a service that I utilize about 15% of the channels from, and yet they want more every year for the same content. This year it's an 8% increase in my bill. A bill to bring content into my home that is already supported by advertising. With online video where it is today and a 5mbps DSL connection, the $60/mo cable TV bill is becoming a charge I may cut soon. I think they're pricing themselves out of business. | |
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Jeffersonville, IN | Re: TW has already announced my cable is going up in January Insight is running the alert also this morning. It is on Spike as I write this. | |
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Laguna Hills, CA | Stand your ground TWC Just say NO to the channel extortionists. | |
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| Re: What about advertising income. said by dcurrey:Wouldn't TW pulling the channels also hurt Viacom. Don't they get a share of advertising dollars. I would think the loss of of few million viewers would hurt Viacom more than what the are asking. It's a political game, and someone needs to blink first.... This is not the first time channels have been pulled off of a cable or satellite company, and within a few weeks after that one of the two will give up just enough for the other to agree.
Neither TWC or Viacom wants to lose. They will arm wrestle for a while, then come to an agreement of some sorts.... both companies will have lost some revenue by then (advertisement for Viacom, people leaving for sat/telco for TWC) and in the end the remaining customers will foot the bill, either in rising fees or in more advertisement.
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Hendersonville, NC | Re: ironic said by thefett:kinda funny that tw never has a problem raising cable rates for their own benefit... must be they wanted that pie for themselves.. Often those rate increases are to cover increases in their fees paid to content companies.
a MSO will sometimes "eat" the increase during the year until their next regularly scheduled rate increase, but in a case of large increase to carry the content they may need to do a mid-year increase to cover those costs. Your cable TV rates are more directly tied to the cost of content then you may want to believe. | |
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| | | said by thefett:kinda funny that tw never has a problem raising cable rates for their own benefit... must be they wanted that pie for themselves.. What are you talking about? Notice how cable's price increases come at the end of the year? And amazingly, this contract dispute to carry Viacom channels comes up at the end of the year?
What do you think is happening at the end of every year when the cable company increases prices? The content providers are negotiating new contracts with the cable companies. And they certainly aren't lowering their PER CUSTOMER rates to the cable companies.
Yes, the cable companies have to pay for these packages of channels PER SUBSCRIBER, no matter if they watch the channel or not. As long as they are receiving the channel, the cable company must pay. Even if they are on digital cable and can tell EXACTLY which channels the customer watches, they still have to pay for them to receive all the channels. | |
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Hendersonville, NC | Re: ironic said by skuv :
Yes, the cable companies have to pay for these packages of channels PER SUBSCRIBER, no matter if they watch the channel or not. As long as they are receiving the channel, the cable company must pay. Even if they are on digital cable and can tell EXACTLY which channels the customer watches, they still have to pay for them to receive all the channels.
This is also one reason we are seeing some MSO's try to teir their programming like with Comcast's Sports tier. By limiting the subscribers with access to the channel via the tiering, They can then not only charge just the customers who want the programming, but they can also tell the content provider "even though we have 50,000 subscribers in our system, only 100 are subscribing to your channel so that's all we are paying you for."
That's one reason the content providers like NFL and BTN complain so much about being put into a special sports tier. Not only can they no longer fudge their viewship numbers for advertising sales, but if you are charging per sub, but not getting access to all the subs you thought you'd get access too, you make less money. I believe this is one reason we saw BTN cave and finally get carried on the networks. They lowered their pricing because they realized something like $.30 /sub for expanded basic subs would result in more income than $1 per sub for sports tier subs. | |
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kudos:18 | Viacom wants 22-36% fee increases per channel... Ok, what was it again that causes cable TV price increases?
 
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Camden, TN | said by dadkins:Ok, what was it again that causes cable TV price increases? WRONG. they want 23 CENTS. Not PERCENT. Percent it's les than 12. But hey why use facts when lies do better at promoting your POV. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Viacom wants 22-36% fee increases per channel... said by BF69:said by dadkins:Ok, what was it again that causes cable TV price increases? WRONG. they want 23 CENTS. Not PERCENT. Percent it's les than 12. But hey why use facts when lies do better at promoting your POV. Wait, so you are saying Viacom already gets more than $2/channel? Wow, that is even more outrageous than a 23% increase would have been.
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| | Will TWC be dropping prices Will TWC be dropping prices while they no longer carry these channels?
Of course not. TWC isn't fighting for the customer. Most TWC markets sit right in the middle of FIOS territory. People are moving to FIOS, I haven't had a price increase in three years.
Personally, I could care less. I don't want any of these stupid channels.
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Owasso, OK | Why I left Dish These "spats" are the reason that I left Dish and went with DirecTV. I got tired of Ergin holding us hostage in his business negotiations.
You can bet that the 22-36 percent increase is really just a few percent increase for the cablecast. But TW throws in the NEW online revenue demand and makes it sound like there is an "exorbitant" rate hike by Viacom.
How can anyone (especially you TKJ) be against paying the content creator /copyright holder their share of the online revenue? | |
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Liverpool, NY | Re: Why I left Dish who cares. I am on the verge of getting ride of cable all together. Nothing but crap | |
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Montreal, QC
kudos:3 | Greedy bastards Fantastic. Turner Broadcasting System pulled a similar stunt like this to canadian cable provider Videotron for their PeachTree channel (WPCH Atlanta).
»[Illico] Retrait PeachTree (TBS Superstation) (French)
Basically, USA gets TBS Superstation nationwide while Canada gets WTBS Atlanta renamed to WPCH, 2 years ago. TBS is now asking for too much for it. As of Dec 30th 2008, WPCH was removed from the schedule and a message says "This channel is no longer available. Please contact the customer support."
It doesn't really matter, most comedies can be seen on other channels, movies are edited to bits and some Atlanta Braves games can be seen on other sport channels. Useless channel.
Greed.
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Bradenton, FL | Not worth watching The last time I remember watching MTV was back in the early 80's. Back then was when MTV was worth watching. Nick, Spike, TVLand, and CMT isn't watched enough in my house to make a big deal over.
All that is shown on TV nowadays is crap and repeats. There is a few good shows I watch but I don't set my time around them. Missing a TV show is no big deal since it will be out on DVD sooner or later.
With the internet people are watching less hours of TV. Kids are watching less TV because they are to busy playing computer games. Give it another 10 years and TV will be a dying breed.
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| | GO TWC Not that I have TWC (we have DirecTV), but they should tell Vicaom to go pound sand. Nothing on those channels is worth the increase at all. Especially a 22%+ increase on the filler channels (MTC, CMT, etc). | |
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| Hold The Line I hope TWC holds the line. Granted their motives are not purely altruistic but the providers of these channels such as Disney with their overpriced ESPN, Yes! and Viacom need to get a clue. Stop the BS price increases. Yes the cable companies are sticking it to the customers as well but this back and forth tit-for-tat pricing is insane.
If TWC capitulates, the only other way to fight back would be for the government to press ahead with al a carte pricing and then let the customers vote by choosing the channels they want. At least that would put the power in the hands of the consumers.
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I support the right to keep and arm bears. | |
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| | Huh? 
I am so confused I have Verizon Fios I am also losing these channels??? I have a 2 and 3 year old that LIVE on Noggin | |
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| | | Re: Huh? They are just inserting this message at the source. Anyone who gets the channel probable see it. | |
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