adisor19
join:2004-10-11 | Now now Karl
Getting an unlocked iPhone and not getting raped by AT&T is a pretty good deal in my book even thought 3G speeds might be shitty..
Adi |
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jchambers28
join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR | GSM
I am wondering if most US providers will change from CDMA to GSM any time soon. |
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Nemokrad
join:2002-04-24
Miami, FL
1 edit | reply to adisor19
Re: Now now Karl
Yeah it's quite obvious Karl likes to downplay any positive iPhone stories and otherwise flame it at every possible chance. Good for site hits. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to jchambers28
Re: GSM
said by jchambers28  :I am wondering if most US providers will change from CDMA to GSM any time soon. Very doubtful since Sprint is in financial trouble and Verizon dos not want to rebuild its entire system. |
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andrewhaji
Premium
join:2002-03-02
North York, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to jchambers28
said by jchambers28 :I am wondering if most US providers will change from CDMA to GSM any time soon. Pretty much all the major players are converging on a single 4G standard in the upcoming years, so eventually they'll all be running on the same type of network. |
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dustman81
join:2002-05-28
Tallmadge, OH
 ·AT&T U-Verse
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to moonpuppy
said by moonpuppy :said by jchambers28 :I am wondering if most US providers will change from CDMA to GSM any time soon. Very doubtful since Sprint is in financial trouble and Verizon dos not want to rebuild its entire system. Verizon has said it will go to LTE for it's 4G network, along with AT&T. Sprint has gone with WiMax for it's 4G network. |
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jchambers28
join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR | reply to andrewhaji
does that mean CDMA is here to stay |
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MRCUR
join:2007-03-09
Columbia, PA | I believe LTE is based off of GSM. |
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ydoucare
join:2003-03-12
Rensselaer, IN
·Embarq
 ·Millenicom
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
1 edit | reply to jchambers28
said by jchambers28 :I am wondering if most US providers will change from CDMA to GSM any time soon. As if it's that simple for them to just rebuild their entire network and force all customers to buy new phones (except maybe those with "global" GSM/CDMA phones). lol |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| reply to dustman81
Yeah, not sure what crack sprint is smoking. I like WiMax, but they've cut themselves off from the opportunity to compete on service to attract customers. Now customers will just choose AT&T and Verizon or other LTE carriers so they do not have to buy new phones. |
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AlexNYC
join:2001-06-02
Edwards, CO | Walmart anyone?
Does anyone know if the iPhones purchased at Walmart must be activated in the store? |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
Premium
join:2005-01-03 | reply to Nemokrad
Re: Now now Karl
How did he downplay it and flame it? If anything, he flamed T-mo for using non-standard 3G frequencies. I don't think anyone can blame Apple for there being only one other GSM provider in the US. |
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iansltx_
@spcsdns.net
| Glad to see the 3G unlock. Unfortunate that TMo had to resort to AWS in the States for 3G.
As for LTe, it's totally independent of CdMA or GSM. So is WiMAX for tgat matter. As a matter of fact, the current 3G (HSPA) is closer to CDMA in tech specs than GSM, though the band width is much wider...5 MHz vs 1.25.
So for either tech you'll need new equipment. Personally, WiMAX is already here, so Sprint has the jump on things.
Oh, and WiMAX seems to havecaught on where CDMA cought on before, like Korea. I don't think it'll pull an EPIC FAIL like HD DVD did.
I'll take my CDMA phone, thanks...with high speed data in 99% of the places I go. ATT 3G is getting better, but the EvDO footprint available to me is huge...and tends to be just as fast as ATT 3G, if not faster...despite what the specs say. |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
Premium
join:2005-01-03 | reply to AlexNYC
Re: Walmart anyone?
May I suggest asking here: »All Things Macintosh |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
Premium
join:2005-01-03 | reply to AlexNYC
Eh, and another thought: can you imagine the fuck-ups if you had to activate in-store? Requiring Wal-Mart employees to activate iPhones would scare me. |
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Chaldo
join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI | Can't you unlock so no internet plan on AT&T?
Can't you just unlock it to get rid of the internet plan you need for at&t to keep the phone active. Jw? |
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AlexNYC
join:2001-06-02
Edwards, CO | reply to PolarBear
Re: Walmart anyone?
Yes you may ... but I think you missed the point of my post entirely as it relates to the original article. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to NOCMan
Re: GSM
I don't think your reasoning is 100% valid there.
To basically say that the right way to go is where everyone else is doesn't mean it's always THE right way to go. Everyone is going the way of Microsoft, but does it mean MS is and was always the best choice? It just means that power by numbers has built the brand.
We have yet to see where WiMax can or will take us. Sometimes the rebel wins out in the end. Many people called DirecTv and Dish out cold, however, they lauched a few new satellites, increased HD and they are now viable again.
As for attracting people becuase of not having to buy new phones, well, people buy new phones quite often any more. If a customer is replacing their phone every one or two years, that's about as long as you have a customer anyway.
In all honesty, the 'average' consumer doesn't know the difference between carriers. They shop based on rates and coverage still. Things like LTE, GMS, CDMA, WiMax.. all that means not much to so many.
The road ahead is still uncharted but I don't think there is much of a race as there is just a show being put on for us all.
Only time can be the true judge of who does something right or wrong.. oh, but while I'm on the right or wrong.. the one thing I can give AT&T credit for was taking the iPhone.. to be honest, with out it, I think AT&T would not be as strong as they are today with out it.. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to Chaldo
Re: Can't you unlock so no internet plan on AT&T?
Why in the world have an iPhone then if you had no data plan? Then you just have an iTouch with a phone which seems kinda worthless to me.
Much of what makes the iPhone popular and great is how well it's connected to the internet. Being able to pull up related content to your location, contact, GPS, etc. is part of what gives the iPhone its name-sake.
Just curious why you'd want to get rid of that part is all... |
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Oleg
Bellsouth Fastaccess
Premium
join:2003-12-08
Birmingham, AL | Re: iPhone 3G Unlocked
Russians have done it along time a go. |
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