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Comments on news posted 2009-01-03 12:35:10: Back in 2007, the government announced it would be giving each household in the United States two coupons to help pay for digital adapters, made necessary by the February 17, 2009 transition from analog to digital television. ..

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David
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Well

I requested my 2 and never got them. So I can see where 44.9 mil came from. The downside is your and my wonderful federal goverment can't re-issue them but they can verify that they haven't been spent either.

What a failed mess..


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Also be interesting to know what effect the economic crisis

is having. There may be significant numbers of people with cable and satellite who are cutting cable to reduce costs and suddenly scrambling, deciding they might need converter boxes after all.

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a mess is on the way

On February 17, 2009 this over the air dtv thing is just going to be one big ugly mess. Millions of people will loose their access to free tv. Millions will not understand what has happened. There will be lots of mad tv viewers. This dtv transition is an earthquake in the making.

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Re: a mess is on the way

said by tv :

On February 17, 2009 this over the air dtv thing is just going to be one big ugly mess. Millions of people will loose their access to free tv. Millions will not understand what has happened. There will be lots of mad tv viewers. This dtv transition is an earthquake in the making.
If it affects millions of people, then those people aren't actually watching TV. I can't even watch a Tv show without being constantly reminded about the digital transisition from every channel flashing reminders on the screen during programming.
It is extremely annoying. I was ready for the change back in 2001. I just want it to be done with since I'm sick of hearing about it all the time.

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Re: a mess is on the way

The news media has went overboard with the constant dtv reminders. In a few weeks it should all be over.
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said by aaronwt See Profile :

said by tv :

On February 17, 2009 this over the air dtv thing is just going to be one big ugly mess. Millions of people will loose their access to free tv. Millions will not understand what has happened. There will be lots of mad tv viewers. This dtv transition is an earthquake in the making.
If it affects millions of people, then those people aren't actually watching TV. I can't even watch a Tv show without being constantly reminded about the digital transisition from every channel flashing reminders on the screen during programming.
It is extremely annoying. I was ready for the change back in 2001. I just want it to be done with since I'm sick of hearing about it all the time.
They've been watching. They've been told that with this magic box they'll keep receiving TV. They haven't been told that what is a perfectly watchable analog signal is not a good enough signal for this magic box to work. I'm in the situation where I can get a good analog signal, but maybe 1 or 2 digital channels if I'm lucky (they come and go).
Also keep in mind that the majority of the population aren't as picky about picture quality as we are - VHS was fine for them, and they don't mind a little show and ghosting.

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Yikes.

Why not just send out a letter to ever home and give them information on how to obtain a coupon. I'd be willing to bet that most people who watch TV, don't use rabbit ears anymore. Maybe the government should focus on necessities.
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For those served by translators

See my Sticky

» [DTV OTA] 2/2009 Transition - Translators - Please Read

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Bad qualifications

This is why the coupons should have been reduced in vale or even restricted to households that made over a certain income level.

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I guess it was serious..

"IMPORTANT:
We have determined that you are eligible to participate in this program and your coupon application has been approved. However, because program funding is not currently available, you will not receive coupons unless more funding becomes available. If program funding becomes available you should receive your coupons in the mail."

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Ordered 2

Never used them
I feel guilty. Wait I looked they expired.... No more guilt
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Comcast needs to get on the ball too

A few weeks ago, all of our local TV stations collaborated on a project to shut off their analog signals. This was supposed to alert the viewers that they would lose their TV signals on February 17th if they hadn't gone digital yet. Guess what? Local Comcast subscribers also found out that even the cable company is pulling the analog feed for one of our local TV stations. If Comcast doesn't act quickly, they'll be caught with their pants down!!

On another note, I don't think the government is giving enough time to redeem the digital converter coupons. By the time you actually receive the coupons, you only have about 1-1/2 months to use them. I urged my parents to get their coupons even though they have DirecTV on all their sets. Well, they forgot to use their coupons before the expiration, and they were S.O.L. Now they have to use one of MY converter boxes, which has come in handy when my cable goes out.

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Govt should know what coupons were not redeemed...

They can then reissue those unused coupons (including expired ones). For people who did not get there's yet - well to bad. Our local stations have been running crawlers since the beginning of last year - unless you live under a rock there s no real excuse not to know. But then - if you live under a rock - you probably do not need a converter box.

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Re: Govt should know what coupons were not redeemed...

I got a couple of the coupon but I decided why fork over money for something I will never use. I have been on dish Network for years I have all of the local channels, that I don't watch, so what do I need a conversion box for. I might set up a TV on a antenna to watch the analog signal go away.
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Re: Govt should know what coupons were not redeemed...

said by Transmaster See Profile :

...why fork over money for something I will never use. I have been on dish Network for years I have all of the local channels, that I don't watch, so what do I need a conversion box for.
I don't think it's a bad idea to have one available if really needed. What if something happens with Dish's uplink between your local stations and them ? In the past, you'd simply dig out an antenna and watch the analog channel(s). In two months, that won't be an option (with an older TV).

In our house, we have (2) TVs and (1) Dish receiver. Their receivers, especially the DVRs, do die. I'm not saying people will "die" without having television, but there's times you may want some channels available, even if it's just the local ones for news.

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Re: Govt should know what coupons were not redeemed...

said by Hall See Profile :

said by Transmaster See Profile :

...why fork over money for something I will never use. I have been on dish Network for years I have all of the local channels, that I don't watch, so what do I need a conversion box for.
I don't think it's a bad idea to have one available if really needed. What if something happens with Dish's uplink between your local stations and them ? In the past, you'd simply dig out an antenna and watch the analog channel(s). In two months, that won't be an option (with an older TV).
You have some good points. We have cable TV, but recently our line got knocked down due to an ice storm. TV, landline and internet was down for 3 days. It's a good thing we had that digital converter. Not only would we have gone nuts, we would have also missed important weather bulletins.

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said by CylonRed See Profile :

They can then reissue those unused coupons (including expired ones).
That is exactly how the program is administered.

There has been a recent surge in requests for coupons as more people become aware of the transition. The problem is recently issued unused coupons will expire too late to allow enough time to issue new ones prior to Feb 17.

/tom

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Re: Govt should know what coupons were not redeemed...

I understand all that but no bailout is needed. If people hose it up because they waited to long then that is their problem - not the govts.

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Re: Govt should know what coupons were not redeemed...

Why do the coupons expire before the transition date? Who came up with this idea and what was the reasoning?

I think that (starting in about 2 weeks) all local stations in a given area should get together and, at some agreed upon time, shut down ALL analog signals for a half hour. As Feb 17th gets closer, do this for 1-2 hours on another day. Keep increasing the duration (no more than 2 hrs) and occurrences. (or just broadcast a fixed message explaining things instead of a complete shut-down.) This will get everyone's attention!

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said by caesarv See Profile :

I think that (starting in about 2 weeks) all local stations in a given area should get together and, at some agreed upon time, shut down ALL analog signals...
Ummm, they are doing that all over the country. The Dayton OH television market's test was done a couple of weeks ago.

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Re: Govt should know what coupons were not redeemed...

I believe a city in NC is all digital or they had a huge test and were the first ones to do said test. May have been an all day test to boot.

Actually - they have been digital since Sept 2008: »https://www.dtv2009.gov/Wilmington.aspx

So tests ARE proceeding in other markets as well...

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Re: Govt should know what coupons were not redeemed...

I believe Hawaii is all-digital now too.

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Prediction

I'm going to go ahead and predict what the "theme" for 2009 will be (as announced during this coming December looking back at the past year). . .

BAILOUT.
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Just applied for my coupon and got the following error message:

said by »www.dtv2009.gov :
We have determined that you are eligible to participate in this program and your coupon application has been approved. However, because program funding is not currently available, you will not receive coupons unless more funding becomes available. If program funding becomes available you should receive your coupons in the mail.
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Hey Sam

Get bent, you took almost 1 billion from us last year...against our will for some scummy bailout for financial industries and loans for shitty car companies on the brink of failing. Enough is enough!

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Re: Hey Sam

I think you meant TRILLION!

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US Govt Lame use of money.

With all the problems in the economy wtf did the US Government promise to 'pay' households to switch to digital. Hell if you want to own a TV and service changes, I'm sure that those affording a TV can afford a little to transition.

Why spend butt-loads of money that they DON'T have or can even spare so couch potatoes can enjoy themselves without lifting a finger. SERIOUSLY... this country's misuse of funds boggles my mind!
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