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reply to graysonf

Re: News Servers asking for authentication

said by graysonf:

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I'm pretty sure you mean that if you queue a bunch of stuff up to download, no matter how much, and that takes you over quota, it will all come down, then you won't be able to take more.

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reply to ElViejoPoeta
So one user uses the allocation and all other DSLi subscribers pay. This really sucks.

Well, I am suggesting that it is theoretically possible for only one user to do this. However, it should be noted that more than one user could contribute to the problem and is the more likely scenario.

And in fact, my understanding of the way it is set up is that even if no individual users went over quota, it's still possible to run out of total system quota and have everyone locked out.

reply to ElViejoPoeta
Let me get something straight..DSLi claims they have a quota for newsfeeds that the customers can hose by lots of access!!? What the ##%@ . That is soooo gay. If as an ISP you can't handle running a fat pipe into your own Newsservers for your customers to access, then you should get the hell out of that area. A customer quota should be irrelevant if once they have the messages on their servers. It then just becomes a question of whether they are lame enough to put bandwidth quotas on particular services like news group access. If some moron is sending gazillions of messages that could be a quota issue from whoever provides their newsfeed, but sending and receiving should be negotiated differently. Customers tend to read more than they post.

FYI... Before you go cracking on a company about something you apparently know nothing about. Most all ISP's outsource their news server access. This is because of the misuse of newsgroups to transfer binary files which is was never designed for. And to maintain a full news feed these days requires terabytes of disk space and about a DS3 connection for the news server alone.

Now if you want to start forking over some more money to them just for news access then be my guest and help them build and maintain their own..

reply to B330230
Try this company. $14.95 per month w/unlimited dl's

»www.usenetserver.com/

DSLi used to use them for their outsourced news. It got to be pricey with no way to control the cost.

reply to ropeguru
Thanks for enlightening me ... jackass. I know quite well just how much effort and cost it takes to maintain newsfeeds. I guess it wasn't amazingly obvious enough that my point is if you can't afford to play with the big boys, then stop wasting your time and charging me for a service that you can't really handle. I'll take a few bucks back and get the service from a dedicated provider if I am so inclined. Ideally, I want the biggest pipe with the best service I can get so I can get and deliver whatever content from/to the Internet up to the bandwidth limits for 24x7x365 of usage. There are plenty of giant ISP's who gave up the ghost of newsfeeds because it is such a pain in the ass and they could see that it was a drain on their profitability and not a critical point with most customers. I hate the idea of Usenet going extinct, but that is what has been steadily happening for the last 10 years. I want it to live on as long as possible with all the text and binaries that have been there in the last 15-20 years and hopefully the dedicated providers will extend it's life for another decade if they have customers.

reply to ElViejoPoeta
Well it's been a nice ride with DSLi, and for the most part I don't have any complaints. Service was excellent even if we were shortchanged on newsgroups. I'm going with BellSouth Extreme come Monday. Same price higher speeds, static IP and better news access. The 500MB/monthly blows and I can't justify spending an additional $15/Mo for news when BellSouth is offering a better package.

said by Kip2020:

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Same price higher speeds, static IP

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reply to ElViejoPoeta
FYI... newsgroups are available again... at this moment anyway.

Right, they came back as predicted on May 2. No idea if anything has been done to either increase the quota or prevent it from being overrun by a single user though.

Someone mentioned September 2nd. I was wondering where that date came from when it was posted... must have been a typo.

Yep, my mistake, that was a typo.

reply to ElViejoPoeta
Seems like this is happening again. Oh well.

C'est la vie.

-- Elias

This really sucks.

Why can't DSLi implement a monitoring system? Maybe even separate binaries which I presume is what is consuming the bandwidth from text, which is what I am interested in?

And my efforts to secure one of the suggested free news provider have not been successful. I consider this a core service of an ISP and I find it apalling that they cannot get handle on this issue.

Shame on DSLi!
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See where my mind is: »www.porcel.net

There is a monitoring system, so they know who is using up the quota, if they chose to look at that information. I doubt there is a way to separate the binary feed from the text feed though.