 TexasGuy49 States And TexasPremium join:2002-12-02 Houston, TX | 18K and 14K, why? How come on one coast it is 18K and on the other it is 14K??? |
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 | It probably has something to do with one being mostly Former Bell Atlantic while the other is former GTE. |
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 | reply to TexasGuy Hasn't the west always been a little lower ? |
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 | reply to TexasGuy Tofu dogs, Kelp shakes and too much sun limit the ability of install technicians on the West Coast.  |
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 rpeAMP join:2000-12-02 San Antonio, TX | reply to TexasGuy You gotta remember that Verizon is a conglomeration of several telcos. It's quite possible that the integrity of the lines in one area is of higher caliber in one area than in the next. |
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 japPremium join:2003-08-10 038xx | reply to TexasGuy Different deployed hardware & architecture. Not sure why it happened that way but there's always been differences between V-east & V-west. Prior to this those diffs were most often impacted end-users when they relocated across the divide and, upon arrival, discovered they couldn't continue to use their same dsl modem. |
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 dru join:2000-09-14 Corona, CA | reply to TexasGuy Good question .... the 14.2k is actually a 2k foot DOWNGRADE and there are quite a few people between the 14.2k and 16.2k that have qualified at the basic 768x128 who will now be disqualified if they attempt to change ISPs or upgrade.
The notification I received last week talked about it as an "enhancement" but little explanation about dropping West Coast qualification while increasing East Coast.
One explanation might be that more 26 gauge cable was installed by GTE in its territories, but SBC actually reports their loop qualification in 26ga equivalence, and they still qualify loops in the 17k range. -- I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe. |
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 pvc00 join:2001-03-10 Hampton, VA | reply to TexasGuy on the east coast is mainly ex-Bell Atlantic which uses ATM DSL equipment, where ex GTE territory uses Frame relay style DSL, I guess the DSL wont go out as far on the Frame Relay, but only the engineers know that stuff.. |
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 | reply to dru vz east's local loop copper plant is mostly 19 awg to 22 awg.
vz west's is mostly 24 awg to 26 awg. the higher the awg number, the smaller the size of the copper conductor. the smaller the awg number, the bigger the copper conductor.
smaller conductor lines have more resistance to electrical signal transmissions; bigger conductor lines offer less resistance to electrical signal transmissions. with less resistance on a line, a dsl signal will have longer reach. it will have less signal attenuation/loss. |
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 dru join:2000-09-14 Corona, CA | reply to pvc00 Your information is about 2 years out of date. After the merger between Verizon and GTE, they discontinued installing Frame (Fujitsu) equipment. ATM ("ASAMs") were installed in all offices and now no longer make it available for new installs. If you change ISPs or move, you can't get reprovisioned to a frame DSLAM which are all "closed" to new orders. The only reason you still hear about frame clients here so much is because this site is frequented by a high percentage of early adopters. |
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