Re: Scary reality ... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r10122726 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:30:37 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:30:37 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10871874 veh : I don't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10871874 Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:33:04 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10125973 LrdVader :
said by linicx See Profile:
If ISPs listened to me they wouldn't have few virus problems to begin with. and their clients would have safe email.

No, if ISPs listened to you they would go out of business, because their clients would refuse to tolerate the constant interruptions in service.

Here's a nice link about this type of practice going back to 1999. It was silly then, and it's still silly now.

»vmyths.com/rant.cfm?id=241&page=4]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10125973 Sat, 01 May 2004 20:07:47 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10125587 linicx : If ISPs listened to me they wouldn't have few virus problems to begin with. and their clients would have safe email.
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Macintosh: no windows, no gates and the Apple inside]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10125587 Sat, 01 May 2004 19:16:50 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10124926 LrdVader :
said by linicx See Profile:
Until someone gets a handle on this bot, the smart thing for every ISP to do is shut down the mail servers so it can't spread; locate the infected machines and notify the owners.

So every time there's a new virus found, email should grind to a screeching halt?

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Think about it. If ISPs listened to you, email would be down more than it would be up, and would be completely useless for anything even remotely important.

Is that really what you want?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10124926 Sat, 01 May 2004 17:45:02 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10124480 rklein : You don't run your own mail server, do you?
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-Rich]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10124480 Sat, 01 May 2004 16:49:43 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10123488 russotto : Unix systems tend to be compromised, when compromised, by attacks directly addressed to the system which is compromised.

Microsoft systems are compromised by attacks addressed "to whom it may concern".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10123488 Sat, 01 May 2004 14:32:52 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10123325 B777300 :
said by INHCNN See Profile:
said by linicx See Profile:
It is very scary if you own a machine with a Microsoft Operating System running it.


Yep, because *nix systems aren't ever compramised. (rolls eyes)


I hope that was a joke, or that would show your ignorance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10123325 Sat, 01 May 2004 14:13:16 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122768 Corvus : Unfortunately, yes. I deal with angry people who wants to quit us everyday, and when they loose business because the service was down trust me, they don't care about spam because money talks.
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Jesus saves, but only Buddha makes incremental backups.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122768 Sat, 01 May 2004 12:52:25 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122726 linicx : Yeah, you're right . 500,000 customers probably do prefer worms served with spam and morning coffee.
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Macintosh: no windows, no gates and the Apple inside]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122726 Sat, 01 May 2004 12:47:24 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122603 INHCNN :
said by linicx See Profile:
It is very scary if you own a machine with a Microsoft Operating System running it.


Yep, because *nix systems aren't ever compramised. (rolls eyes)

said by linicx See Profile:
Until someone gets a handle on this bot...


It's not just *one* bot. I've seen a large variety of IRC bots and FXP sites - and they all contribute to the same problem.

These kinds of activities though are going to be what blows the lid off of the computer underground. You have a lot of kids out there installing root kits, bots, and FTP servers en mass, and it is starting to draw attention. This has always been a problem for people like myself who deal with it everyday, but now the public at large is starting to get involved, and that will change the game.

Although, this is the first time that I've seen it all refered to as "organized crime". When I first read it, I got a chuckle out of it. But if you think about it: pre relase movies, music, and applications are very commonplace in the underground, and that can be used as a platform to call such activities "organized crime". Not that the older stuff isn't crime, it just doesn't have the same life as the major pre-release stuff.

-end-of-early-morning-rant-]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122603 Sat, 01 May 2004 12:24:48 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122521 Optimized : I have not seen any abnormal requests in my logs during the past 24 hours.

Shields up :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122521 Sat, 01 May 2004 12:11:48 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122487 Corvus : Humm, my example: you have 500 000 customers and they pay for the service, how can you shutdown mail servers without loosing money (you must refund them) and customers?
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Jesus saves, but only Buddha makes incremental backups.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122487 Sat, 01 May 2004 12:06:17 EDT Re: Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122455 linicx : It is very scary if you own a machine with a Microsoft Operating System running it.

Until someone gets a handle on this bot, the smart thing for every ISP to do is shut down the mail servers so it can't spread; locate the infected machines and notify the owners.
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Macintosh: no windows, no gates and the Apple inside]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122455 Sat, 01 May 2004 12:01:41 EDT Scary reality ... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122377 Optimized : That's probably a conservative estimate too!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10122377 Sat, 01 May 2004 11:49:36 EDT