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drkkgt
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To Union or not to Union

Remember though, the original unions were by the workers for the workers, now it seems it's more a business who works for the business first, then the workers. However, as with anything in this lovely world of ours, there are good example of unions that actually fight for their people in an honorable way, then there are the rest of them. I'm all for strikes, but lets make sure that the one's who are truly affected are the ones you are stiking against.

Personally, I think this guy should be hung from a telephone pole (not necessarily nailed, just tied up) for a day.



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said by drkkgt:
Remember though, the original unions were by the workers for the workers, now it seems it's more a business who works for the business first, then the workers. However, as with anything in this lovely world of ours, there are good example of unions that actually fight for their people in an honorable way, then there are the rest of them. I'm all for strikes, but lets make sure that the one's who are truly affected are the ones you are stiking against.

Personally, I think this guy should be hung from a telephone pole (not necessarily nailed, just tied up) for a day.


And how would that be possible?


drkkgt
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There will always be some bleed over, but the main group affected should be the one you are trying to get the point across to.

For instance, in LA (and other areas) a bunch of truck drivers got together and parked on some of the major freeways in the middle of the day to protest gas prices. Okay, I understand their attitude, but how exactly is disrupting the lives of this many people going to help? People who are just as pissed off about the same thing yet aren't the ones making the decisions.



Combat Chuck
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said by drkkgt:
For instance, in LA (and other areas) a bunch of truck drivers got together and parked on some of the major freeways in the middle of the day to protest gas prices. ...

Not to mention they probably made gas prices go up slightly because of all the people stuck in the traffic with their engines running; who would have been home otherwise.
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KrK
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They are being driven out of business. For you and I high fuel prices mean we sacrifice other luxuries and re-work our budgets and complain and bitch a lot.

For truckers, high fuel prices mean their freight loses money, they can't put food on the table, they can't afford to maintain their truck, and leads to bankruptcy and business failure. These volaitile fuel prices are killing guys who have been owner operators for years, and thousands of companies are going out of business.

While I'm sure the freeway blocking incidents are a great inconvience, and probably not the best way to protest, they do draw a LOT of attention.

Besides, it seems to work in Europe. Of course, they go ALL OUT there.

There is one important thing to consider. The Energy energy really should be watched very closely. I'm sure you've all seen the reports of record profits in this sector. It seems some people are willing to hurt everyone else for their own gain.... Most regular citizens aren't yet feeling the true pain these energy prices are causing.

Wait till inflation takes off, and the price of food and everything else starts to double. Remember, everything in the stores, and I mean *EVERYTHING* you buy, was brought in by a truck. If the freight rates have to double to cover fuel, guess who is going to pay those costs?

You guessed it. *You*.
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nonymous
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That is nonsense what do Bush or Cheney have to gain by high price of oil? They are for the average person they feel our pain.



Bubbles5

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Hmmmmm....Cheney = former CEO of Halliburton
Company that was awarded HUGE Iraq contract = Halliburton

ummmmmmmm



drkkgt
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Yeah, I saw that article during the last gas hike, you remember, where production was hindered so they had to raise the price, meanwhile the OPEC group all posted record profits. Strange how the news just happened to mention it on the 11:00 news and not the rest, nor was it on the radio.

As for the truckers, they should have parked in front of the gas stations around town. Still disruptive but not as negative impact on the general public, since that tends to push people away from the trukers plight. Take the grocery strike. People around here were all in support until you started hearing about strikers blockings streets, cussing out people with small children, accosting people just walking down the street.

I thought it was great when the truckers joined the grocery strike and parked outside the warehouses and wouldn't go in. That got tons of attention and caused the greatest hinderance for the company.



KrK
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Part of the problem in America these days is the "Who Cares" attitude, too. Nobody cares about the plights of Truckers or other workers....

...right up until the day those workers strike or those trucks block their freeways. Then they care. They care that they are inconvienced and they rant against the workers.

It's sad but true. Most people really don't care about what other companies do or what other people get laid off or fired... but when it comes to them, then they scream.

If people ever figure out they should care about what's bad for others is also bad for them too then look out.
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KrK
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said by nonymous:
That is nonsense what do Bush or Cheney have to gain by high price of oil? They are for the average person they feel our pain.

LOL... was that sarcasm? Can't always tell from text. Bush and Cheney are both from the oil business, have freinds and family and political connections in the oil business, and have properties and wealth tied to the oil business. While I'm sure they have a general understanding of economics, their position seems to be "What's good for them is good for America" which isn't necessarily the case. Take the latest Energy Bill--- loaded with incentives and law rollbacks that *increase* oil company profits and remove restrictions, but nothing that actually would benefit the consumer.
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