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unclebob

join:2003-05-09
Spiro, OK

reply to nonymous

Re: strikes end

What some of you guys are missing, is that this is the act of ONE guy - not the union.

Just because guys get hot under the collar and do unauthorized (by the union) things, it is NOT union sanctioned.

I will admit that some unions perform a bit of strong arm tactics, but not all of them.

When I was a member of the Boilermaker union, our representation was all about working conditions. On my first job, the union took over after a non union contractor botched a power plant job by hiring underqualified non-union people.

Some of the contractors remained non-union and the difference between the two groups were as different as night and day. The union guys had the right to say that working under certain conditions was unsafe, and not to work until the conditions were met (just standard OSHA stuff).

On the other hand, if one of the non union guys was told to walk some iron to pick up a hammer and he had no safety belt he would do so or lose his job.

Our welders would sometimes hold off on how many tubes they did per shift, but then again the expectations were in the contract. If they were paid to weld 2 tubes per hour, that is what they did. Should they have to do the job faster, when there is no incentive to? No - they were hired to do a certain task at a certain rate and did so. Anything faster than required simply went as a bonus to the project manager.

Even so, when we took the job, it was 3 months behind schedule. We completed several months ahead of schedule, several thousand dollars under budget, and no major job related injurys or deaths.

Our credo was an honest days labor for an honest days pay. The union and the customer negotiated what was acceptable performance, and that is what we provided and exceeded.

Maybe not all unions are like that, but maybe more are than you bashers realise.

Regardless, maybe we do need some type of employee protection - I am getting tired of seeing IT co-workers laid off and replaced by Indian contractors.


BIGMIKE
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join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA

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ross

join:2000-08-16

Pretty unusual selection. Try adding a few high profile, senior (R).


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