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Re: Goodbye Unfortunately, Hall is right. Even if they do fire the employee, the union will get his job back; felony or no felony. I've seen this happen during other strikes. Unions may have served a purpose at one time, but now they're nothing but organized cliques; interested only in themselves and screw everyone else. I've worked in union shops and non-union, and it's true that you don't have to be any smarter than the dumbest person in the shop or work any harder than the laziest. Sometimes it's even a drawback if you do. I don't mean to imply that all union workers are useless, but wake up and smell the coffee; we're in a global economy. That employee needs to be terminated. |
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 HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:1 | I don't remember the exact details of this story, but I do remember this part:
A local union leader (president, vp, I don't recall) was charged with some crime that involved jail time. He was convicted of the crime and sentenced to jail... but, he was only 6 months away from retirement.
His lawyer requested that his jail sentence not start until he reached retirement age. Sadly, the judge granted it (I don't care about that part so much as long as he serves his time).
Now, where did he work for those next six months ?? His old job, of course !!! But he's a convicted criminal... Does that really matter (to a union) ??  |
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said by lefty1:
Unfortunately, Hall is right. Even if they do fire the employee, the union will get his job back; felony or no felony.
Really? Then explain why a union did not save this employee her job.
She worked for the Maryland MVA (Motor Vehicle Administration.) Her boyfriend just killed a doctor of Greek decent (he was black.) She got his picture put on a dead man's license. Took a week but he was caught. She was confronted by police and in return for her testimony, she wouldn't be charged with anything. Well, she was fired. She demanded her job back. Union washed their hands of her and told her to take a hike since she committed a felony (accessory after the fact.) She was never charged but she did lose her job. The union, in this case, did care about its public image. |
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 FLea973Premium
join:2001-02-27
Morristown, NJ | reply to lefty1
said by lefty1:
I've seen this happen during other strikes.
That is where this guy is screwed... they are not on strike yet. Activity of an employee, union or not, is a lot different than activity of a stiking employee in the eyes of the law. Hell, there is plenty of case law that protects strikers from prosecution AND firings for what joe-citizen would call acts of terrorism performed DURING a strike (just look at the nasty crap during the Greyhound strikes in the 80's - shootings, beating up replacements, damaging buses WITH passengers on it... passengers getting injured as a direct result of striker activity) sure the strikers got nailed for criminal activity is SOME of the cases.. but NONE of them could be fired for it.
Yes the union needs to put up the front to "protect" the guy, but if they do much more than just go through the motions and allow him to be terminated in a proper way, they damage their own position at the negotiations and in arbitration if it goes that far. |
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