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| | Microsoft doesn't want to lose the market If they cut off the free loaders, then those people would be forced to use a more complicated OS like linux. Once the idiots learn how to use that, microsoft could be screwed because they may have just lost a potential customer. The only reason I see people use illegal copies because they are in school and have no money. But when these people get into the real world, they probably will actually buy the OS. Although if they used linux, when they get into the work place they will want linux and microsoft could lose expensive business contracts. Then add in to the fact that a lot of businesses rely on windows for income. Its not unheard of for someone running an illegal copy of windows to go out and actually buy a game or two. But if they were on linux that of course wouldn't happen.
The RIAA needs to learn from microsoft. DON'T SCREW WITH POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS BY SUING THEM. YOU WILL LOSE THEM FOREVER. | |
|  | | Re: Microsoft doesn't want to lose the market said by insomniac84:
If they cut off the free loaders, then those people would be forced to use a more complicated OS like linux. Once the idiots learn how to use that, microsoft could be screwed because they may have just lost a potential customer. The only reason I see people use illegal copies because they are in school and have no money. But when these people get into the real world, they probably will actually buy the OS. Although if they used linux, when they get into the work place they will want linux and microsoft could lose expensive business contracts. Then add in to the fact that a lot of businesses rely on windows for income. Its not unheard of for someone running an illegal copy of windows to go out and actually buy a game or two. But if they were on linux that of course wouldn't happen.
The RIAA needs to learn from microsoft. DON'T SCREW WITH POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS BY SUING THEM. YOU WILL LOSE THEM FOREVER.
bs im a student and make a measly 7 bucks an hour and i still paid for windows xp pro, there is no excuse for stealing it, if you cannot afford something save. its not that expensive. i cant afford that new ferrari but hey you dont see me going to the ferrari dealership with a slim jim to steal one. | |
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1 edit | XP "lite" Here is what they should do. For individuals who are willing to do the hard work of installing an OS themselves, Microsoft should offer a version of XP that is "stripped down" to a minimal version, and make it available as a free download, just like Sun does with Solaris.
I bet that you would still get a lot of people who would buy XP Pro or Home editions, or buy them already installed on a computer. Installing XP is beyond the skillset of most people, and you could easily put a clause in the free download EULA that would prevent system builders and computer shops from using the free download version to build systems for people - only the actual end user, the actual computer user who was willing to install XP by themselves would be allowed to install this Windows XP "Lite". And, of course, if you wanted tech support, etc... you would be out of luck on the free download. If you want hand-holding, buy Home or Pro. That's how Sun does it. No tech support on the free downloads. It's nice, though, to be able to download Solaris for your own personal use, if you know what you are doing and you know you aren't going to need help. Not to mention that Sun has tons of documentation available online on their website, and searching on Google (especially Google groups) with questions is also very productive.
Like Sun, for instance, there could be strict rules about the types of machines that the free download could be installed on - Sun has rules for Solaris about not being able to install it on a machine that has more than one processor, or on more than one machine. It's one machine, one machine with one processor. Anything more than that and you have to pay full price. Windows could do something similar, couldn't they? It's only a small percentage of people who would actually install the OS themselves, and it's not exactly the easiest thing to install.
You could even have a way to get a one-time "key" for the product activation, say for instance if you registered with your address, etc... on Microsoft's website prior to downloading the free version. I bet if they really looked at doing it this way, they would probably not actually lose all that much revenue as they think they might, and there would definitely be some people that would be thankful. The key thing would be having a clause in there that would prevent commercial entities from using this method to circumvent licensing fees. | |
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Buffalo, NY | Re: XP "lite" said by sago5:
Here is what they should do. For individuals who are willing to do the hard work of installing an OS themselves, Microsoft should offer a version of XP that is "stripped down" to a minimal version, and make it available as a free download, just like Sun does with Solaris.
They only did that because of competitive pressures and were afraid that there weren't enough people around who knew the OS well enough to admin. it. As 'PC's became more powerful and cheaper Sun started losing lots of business on low-end servers to Windows and Linux. If it weren't for that Solaris would still be $800/copy to everybody but educational institutions.
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| | | | | To my knowledge Solaris' free download has no restrictions about having more than one CPU. Is this something new? | |
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| | | Re: Microsoft doesn't want to lose the market said by cyrus369:
bs im a student and make a measly 7 bucks an hour and i still paid for windows xp pro, there is no excuse for stealing it, if you cannot afford something save. its not that expensive. i cant afford that new ferrari but hey you dont see me going to the ferrari dealership with a slim jim to steal one.
You should work for the RIAA, because stealing software and mp3s deprives no one else of it. Its a money issue and it gets iffy when the person stealing it, steals it because they would never pay for it. If I had no intention of paying for a song or for windows, but would listen to it or use it if it was free, how does me doing so affect sales of the product? Fact is, it doesn't. I was never a potential customer. Also, I did buy windows after using it illegally for 3 years. But only because my college sells it to me for 5 bucks. And that proves that microsoft isn't worried about the younger poor user getting the OS for free because those people will eventually get jobs and the real money is in the business sector. When I graduate and get a non minimum wage job, the 100+ price of windows might make sense and after many years of using it, I won't want to switch to something else. | |
| | | | | Re: Microsoft doesn't want to lose the market said by insomniac84:
said by cyrus369:
bs im a student and make a measly 7 bucks an hour and i still paid for windows xp pro, there is no excuse for stealing it, if you cannot afford something save. its not that expensive. i cant afford that new ferrari but hey you dont see me going to the ferrari dealership with a slim jim to steal one.
You should work for the RIAA, because stealing software and mp3s deprives no one else of it. Its a money issue and it gets iffy when the person stealing it, steals it because they would never pay for it. If I had no intention of paying for a song or for windows, but would listen to it or use it if it was free, how does me doing so affect sales of the product? Fact is, it doesn't. I was never a potential customer. Also, I did buy windows after using it illegally for 3 years. But only because my college sells it to me for 5 bucks. And that proves that microsoft isn't worried about the younger poor user getting the OS for free because those people will eventually get jobs and the real money is in the business sector. When I graduate and get a non minimum wage job, the 100+ price of windows might make sense and after many years of using it, I won't want to switch to something else.
wow so i should goto work for riaa because i think stealing is wrong? i know if i was selling somethiing i wouldt want a bunch of people stealing no matter the age. | |
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2 edits | Re: Microsoft doesn't want to lose the market Stealing deprives someone of whatever is stolen. When the person stealing had no intention to purchase what was stolen and is only using it because he got it for nothing, nothing is stolen. No money was deprived from the owner or maker. First its not stealing because its really copying, and second if you had no intention to buy what you copied, you then aren't taking any money away from anyone because you were never going to buy it. And if the person stealing it now would probably dish out the money 5 years from now, why would you want to sue them? Suing will cost you more money than you are supposedly losing when someone steals it, then you will never get money out of the person you sued because you pissed them off. Then you get negative word of mouth advertising and possibly lose out on a couple more purchases. Suing will get one no where. | |
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| | wow that made no sense really but whatever, the main fact still remains its against the law no matter if your just using or copying or whatever you want to call it so you can feel better that its not called theft. | |
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