switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? in Rogers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r10371703 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:04:42 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:04:42 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10927695 Bender_2k : They don't offer Toshiba's anymore, so that's no longer an option. Just gotta keep putting the pressure on Rogers and demanding refunds each month because we're not getting the service we all payed for.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10927695 Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:59:26 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10927045 anon : It works @ first, but slowly degrades and eventually kills my internet (for most applications).

Using SB5100

Is the only solution to try a trade for the toshiba cable modem?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10927045 Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:10:36 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10917070 anon : I agree with hereto, its not a bittorrent problem per-se. Its actually 'multiple upstream TCP connections cause massive service degrataion'.

I see some people have had success it getting Rogers to fix whatever it was. Ill try plugging my SB5100 back in and see if its fixed for me.

BTW: You guys cant upgrade your firmware, nor will you find any firmware released publicly available on the web. It must be done from Rogers end or from a serial connection. (which is probably not built into the production boards and even if it were probably requires a slightly custom dongle)

I dont think its really a firmware problem so much as a RF misconfiguration problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10917070 Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:22:31 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10895281 realrena :
said by hereto:
For anyone having slow torrent issues - are you sure you aren't having the same issue as the "upload cripples downloads"? I have the problem where, when achieving my max upload, I can't even load web pa.......

That's not it.... Download sucked even if i'm uploading at 10kb/s..or less
So there's definately something fishy going on with rogers..
--
Pinging www.rogers.com [142.146.40.100] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

LOL...100% Packet Loss...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10895281 Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:47:42 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10895209 felix7 : I had this "bi-direction transfer" issue when I was with Bell Sympatico DSL in Kingston, but never with cable modem. In the beginning everything was fine too, then the disconnects got more frequent. Here is my thread if anyone is interested ...

»[ Extreme] Disconnects/freeze especially when Uploading]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10895209 Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:37:09 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10890962 anon : For anyone having slow torrent issues - are you sure you aren't having the same issue as the "upload cripples downloads"? I have the problem where, when achieving my max upload, I can't even load web pages. There is a very big issue in some areas with bidirectional transfers - uploading kills downloading - big time. I notice this in my torrents too. BUT - when I first got extreme I could upload a torrent at 80 KB/s and still download at 300KB/s +. Try using an ftp program (I get the best speeds with cute ftp) to upload somewhere, then while uploading, try and download - you may realize this is not a "torrent" issue, but a "bi-directional transfer" issue - just a suggestion.... :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10890962 Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:53:56 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10890208 roboninja : Looks like ChrisFF has found the problem, but I have no way to fix it :( I'll check the web for firmware updates to the Moto SB5100, but I do not expect any luck there. And to think, people told me I was lucky to get this modem when I signed up for Extreme :huh:
(BTW, this took me 2 tries to post, because my BT client is using up a whooping 15k down/20k up, and the browser timed out while posting :( )]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10890208 Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:48:15 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10890112 roboninja : Well ChrisFF seems to have located the problem. Unfortunatley, it seems there is no quick fix available. I'll keep checking Motorola's web page for firmware updates, but I do not expect any help there. Since I "bought" this modem from Rogers, is there any chance of exchanging it for a Toshiba or something? When I got the modem, I was pleased, as most posters were hoping for the Motorola SB5100; looks like they were wrong :(.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10890112 Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:37:49 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10886678 anon : Buddha2oo4, wow at your speeds man, i cant even get that fast.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10886678 Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:46:07 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10873715 pipermac : Couple things I just found out that may help you guys.

First...Turn off UPNP on your application.

Second...Change your Torrent Ports. It looks like Rogers is doing something to Limit Torrents. I changed my Torrent ports to 56881-56889 and Whammo...My Speeds where Way Faster.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10873715 Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:26:30 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10866459 sbrook : These errors in your modem log, Frankii, mean that you lost connection and the modem failed to contact the CMTS and the DHCP server]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10866459 Sat, 24 Jul 2004 19:19:50 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10863299 Frankii : Thanks ChrisFF, with all the things I tried, thats the only one I couldn't. (due to me not having another modem)

ChrisFF, do you think there is just a few people that are having this problem? Wouldn't we hear more about it if it was a general problem? Could it just be the firmware on our modem that is doing this?

Well, anyways, im going to go surf the net if anyone is getting the same problem. Maybe someone came out with a way to update the firmware on this POS :p

and btw, i have this log from my modem, are they normal?
2004-07-24 11:13:52 3-Critical 0x04E33A74 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out
2004-07-24 09:13:50 5-Warning 0x040DC13C DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2004-07-24 09:07:52 3-Critical 0x04E33A74 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out
2004-07-23 09:13:50 5-Warning 0x040DC13C DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2004-07-23 08:52:36 3-Critical 0x04E33A74 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out
2004-07-22 09:13:50 5-Warning 0x040DC13C DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2004-07-22 08:26:32 3-Critical 0x04E33A74 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out
2004-07-21 09:13:50 5-Warning 0x040DC13C DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2004-07-21 07:30:48 3-Critical 0x04E33A74 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out
2004-07-20 09:13:49 5-Warning 0x040DC13C DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2004-07-20 08:05:51 3-Critical 0x04E33A74 Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out
1970-01-01 00:01:24 3-Critical 0x040D9A2C DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response.
1970-01-01 00:01:21 3-Critical 0x040D9964 DHCP FAILED - Discover sent, no offer received]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10863299 Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:55:49 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10856430 anon : I fixed it. Youre not going to like the fix though.

The problem was the SB5100 itself. Im not going to go into detail but I guess there IS a problem in thier bridge for certain circumstances and modulation profiles. Im going to write thier tech support guys a note detailing it and if they get back to me ill help them debug it.

I replaced the SB5100 with a modem containing a custom firmware with the MAC hardcoded equal to my SB100. After switching to the new modem everything worked perfectly. I guess having 75% of the global market share doesent neccesarily mean you have the best product. :p Multiple upstream TCP connections no longer caused severe degradation. I had some torrents going at a sum of 500K/s down and 80K/s upstream simultaneously (needed to leave a bit of upstream headroom for ACKs) while still maintaining 50-120ms ping latency to a site that would see 40-60ms under unloaded conditions.

Obviously, my solution wont work for you so I suggest you try the following:

a) get a different modem, the Webstar or Toshiba (if you shedule a tech to come visit you they should be able to do this)
b) get Rogers to change the firmware on your modem (good luck with this)
c) get DSL :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10856430 Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:44:26 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10855089 Frankii : Anyone found a fix yet?

Its getting to be a pain, each time i leave my torrent on, my roommates complaine that they cant chat on MSN and surf and stuff. And my trafic is only like 10k down and 20k up]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10855089 Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:58:40 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10772238 anon : I called up Motorola broadband tech support and asked them if they knew of any incompatibilies between the SB5100 ethernet chipset and others or if there were any known issues with the internal bridge and bi-directional traffic. No known issues.

So if its not an ethernet problem, (seems unlikely as I have tried about 5 different ethernet cards/chips) not an internal bridge problem (also unlikely as there are people for whom it works properly and im guessing most people have the same firmware as me) yet the RF is OK it MUST be routing /router config or CMTS configuration.

Does know a way to get straight to level 2 or 3 tech support at Rogers?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10772238 Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:45:31 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10771822 anon : Allright. My troubles continue.

I exchanged the modem yesterday for a different SB5100 in the hopes it was just a dud piece of hardware. No dice. Exact same problem with bi-directional traffic causing massive loss and stalls.

So then I figured I would try a new router so I picked up a WRT54G since a) people seem to have alot of success for it b) the source code is GPL and there are lots of nice modified firmwares for it c) I want to hopefully setup a wireless network with my buddies on the same side of the building on 11th and 4th floors (im on 7) d) it was on sale for $90

Anyhow get it home, set it up, still have huge problems with bi-directional traffic. LAter I tried plugging the modem straight into the linux box so its not just a windows thing. Boo. :(

Today im going to contact Motorola broadband support and see if they are aware of any issues and after that I am basically fresh out of ideas. In the meantime however can people with the extreme service, SB5100 and working bittorent post up thier firmware revisions for me?

Mine is:

Software Version: SB5100-2.3.1.3-SCM00-NOSH
Hardware Version: 3
MIB Version: II
GUI Version: 1.0
VxWorks Version: 5.4

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10771822 Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:50:30 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10762393 anon : Ok I spent a couple hours fooling with it last night.

I have determined it is NOT a rogers problem. While I experience massive loss and TCP stalls on the CPE side with bittorent running you can still ping the modem from an extrenal site with no loss and low latency. In short it looks like both the RF and routing are good.

Thus the problem lies between my PC and the modem.

Which leaves:

TCP Stack
hardware level ethernet incompatibility
dud modem/bad hardware

Im leaning towards the ethernet problem as I messed with my TCP settings by altering the RWIN up and down but that had little effect.

Im going to look up the SB5100 tech support page or perhaps call Motorola and see if they are aware of any issues related to ethernet incompatibilities.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10762393 Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:59:01 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10758884 anon : torrents depend on people that are sharing that file. if there are no seeds then it wont go fast]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10758884 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 21:05:41 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10758623 sps4 : Switched to extreme myself after I was stuck back on a teryon from a 3mbps doxis performance. My conn died and they switched modem on me and screwed 300kbps downloads down to 150.

My current torrent as i write this is @140 down 80 up - 14 peers/22 seeds - way good if you ask me.

My downloads are at 560kbps to 600kbps - just downloaded VSSP6 from MS in seconds.

Overall - I am extremely happy with my extreme - for now - 4 days consistent performance.

I know this is not read often in comparison to complaints and a complaint is why I switched but I thought give credit where credit is due. In the meantime I'll be watching it :) once bitten...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10758623 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:36:08 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10755879 anon : I have the exact same problem. I upgraded to extreme last Friday. Before the upgrade on the very same day I had no problems getting the full 40K upload and 100K+ download simultaneously. Now as soon as I use the connection in a bi-directional manner (i.e: bittorent) it all goes to hell, massive packet loss and very slow throughput (10K/s tops).

I looked at my modem diagnostics, its happy, SNR is all good, no errors in the logs. In fact my signal is fantastic. Doing a uni-directional transfer is perfect, 500+K/s down and 90+ up its just the bi-directional traffic that causes fits.

I tried connecting the modem directly to my PC as suggested by people in this thread. (I was using an old SMC router) This didnt make any difference on either of my ethernet ports. (built in 3Com gigabit and intel 10/100 pro card)

So in short:

- doesent appear to be a modem problem
- doesent appear to be a signal strength or RF problem
- doesent appear to be a physical layer ethernet/hardware problem

So I can only surmize that its:

- software
- routing

The only other things I can think to try right now:

- try using bittroent on my linux box, different tcp stack may make a difference
- try altering my TCP settings (RWIN etc) in XP (related to the above)
- bust out etherpeek and sniff my CPE side traffic to look for abnormalities

Im pretty sure its software. If not it can only be routing.

If none of this works I will have to call Rogers because but im not expecting much if anything. Maybe if I tell them I test the DOCSIS spec for a major modem/CMTS manufacturer (this is my actual job) they might put me through to level 3 guy with access to the routers but fat chance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10755879 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 15:35:24 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10738674 anon : Have you tried setting your port range to 49152 through 65535? ABC recommends this.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10738674 Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:42:01 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10735964 Marciff : I have the same problem with ABC and Extreme with the Motorola as well. Even uploading torrents at 30KB/s, my download halts.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10735964 Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:45:23 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10735890 Frankii : I am having the same problem, once ABC starts uploading and downloading even at very low speeds my internet goes to a halt, I can't even log into MSN anymore, times out giving me errors. If I have torrents running on one pc my second pc does not have any bandwith left either.

I just downloaded another client, im going to give that a try.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10735890 Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:31:55 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10705124 I2icky : This seems to be the issue with ABC as well.... As soon as i set the upload limit in the program (to 80k/s), it would plop back down to around 15k/s

however, if i set it to unlimited, my upload speeds would be at max]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10705124 Tue, 06 Jul 2004 19:38:37 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10695850 Kurei : I called Rogers about a week ago about my hi-speed extreme problems with uploading and downloading at the same time (ie. bittorrent and hosting xbox live games), they said they'd look into it. I called em today and it ends up they just closed the ticket saying there's nothing wrong with my connection.

Note that the same day with normal hi-speed, I didn't have any of these problems, it's BLATENTLY the new extreme service's problem!

It's definately not an easy problem to see, but usually any upload over 10kBps will stall all downloads for seconds at a time - that's why I can join xbox games, but can't host (and it ain't a firewall prob, they connect fine and we get right into the game where it stalls, it worked with normal hi-speed).

I'm gonna see if Rogers carries any other modems, if not I'm just gonna move back to normal hi-speed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10695850 Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:03:25 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10677034 anon : This solution applies to all those using the newest versions of Azureus who are experiencing slow upload speeds, but normal download speeds.

a) Set the option to unlimited upload in the configuration.
b) Get a 3rd party bandwidth limiter such as 'Netlimiter'.

Voila! Your upload speed should raise immediately. I had this problem for a few months until I realized that Azureus has a bug in their global upload cap feature.

I even tested it. On seeding the same torrent, my upload speed shot from 10kB/s to 60 kB/s! But as soon as I let AZ cap my total upload speed again (at 55), *plunk* back down to 10kB/s.

Hope this helps for some of you AZ users.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10677034 Sat, 03 Jul 2004 01:08:58 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10647863 buddha2oo4 : See ... I'm not using a router ...

*see screenshot*

To me; i've noticed that a LOT of torrents DO struggle .. but you gotta find torrents that are heavily seeded to get sufficient speeds. (it's like the protocol has changed a bit in the last few months because i still get good speeds on certain torrents).

Just a thought ..

Buddha2oo4
Click for full size
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10647863 Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:31:52 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10646635 anon : If you run a normal speed test and get good results Rogers isn't going to do anything for you. I am on Rogers Extreme and get good speeds on most torrents. Usually 300KB/s + some are slower but most download quite well. I'm using a Linksys Wrt54g with a modified firmware.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10646635 Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:11:47 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10646551 roboninja : Well, I got my new D-Link router, and no change :( The fact that most torrents are horrendously slow is not the only problem. When I have 3-4 torrents going, my total speeds are around 5-20 kB up, and 5-20 kB down. So, there should be lots of bandwidth left. But, if I try to surf with this going on, I get ridiculously slow speeds, DNS resolution timeouts, etc. If I try a speed test without bittorrent running, I get good speeds (575/75). Let bittorrent run, with only the small amount of bandwidth used up as mentioned above (around 5-20 kB up, and 5-20 kB down), the speed test gives me 65/8!!! This is unacceptable. I am going to call Rogers tomorrow and see if I can get this cleared up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10646551 Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:05:27 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10641293 Kurei : I have the exact same problem with bittorrent, and also anywhere that I upload/download at the same time is slow, including xbox live. I'm not behind a router.

I tried downloading a linux ISO while uploading through FTP, the download COMPLETELY halts while the uploading takes place.

I'm in Ottawa West (Kanata).

I just called Rogers, I'll update you guys if this gets sorted out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10641293 Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:17:11 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10636649 devilman1974 : roboninja , Let us know if that worked, im sick of my 5kb/s torrents.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10636649 Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:01:50 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10618011 Sean : Using the BitTorrent technology it is alsmot impossible to get 5 KB/s on a torrent with 130 peers (122 seeders and 8 downloaders), unless a port is blocked or there is some bottleneck (on your end or Rogers').]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10618011 Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:13:25 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10617171 KraftDinner9 : you know what roboninja, I really don't think you can do anything about your bad speeds. Even well seeded torrents could have slow DL rates (122 seeds 8 peers) because you never know whether or not those 122 peers are seeding OTHER torrents at the same time. Since you've been able to get 300 KB/s, I think its safe to say that everything is fine on your end, theres nothing wrong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10617171 Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:48:01 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10614166 sbrook : Other than lots of complaints that Rogers port throttles, Rogers has in the past denied that they port throttled, and many of the speed issues have been resolved as other problems. As noted changing ports to non-standard ports doesn't even seem to solve the problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10614166 Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:39:55 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10613251 roboninja : I have the Moto SB5100 modem. I have tried a high port (49123), but that did not do anything. It is weird, because the odd torrent will do fine (a 300kB/s DL rate), but 95% of torrent hover around 1-5 kB/s for 95% of the time. Even torrents that are well seeded (122 seeds, 8 peers, and 1-5 kB/s??). I will try to call Rogers tech tomorrow, but if nothing gets resolved, I may take the advice of vybe232 and get a new router, as I do indeed have an old SMC VBR Barricade.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10613251 Sat, 26 Jun 2004 02:50:47 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10564127 KraftDinner9 : Yes, it could also be solved by Rogers, who knows, you could have a bad signal coming into your modem. Give them a call, see what they say.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10564127 Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:30:40 EDT Starling http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10559588 Starling : Marcif, I had exactly the same problem. I tried different ports (80,83,400,10000,63049, 64039 etc). It did not help. The problem was solved by Rogers and I can now upload my torrent with 50kBps and still be able to serf with out delays or ICQ/MSN disconnections. Read my posts above.

Read this tread. I believe it applies to me.
»Ottawa's back in business fellahs!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10559588 Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:10:03 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10558355 Marciff : On the speakeasy speedtests, I get close to 100KB/s, but I cannot get over 40KB/s with bittorrent. I get the MSN problems, and page timeouts when I am uploading at 40KB/s with bittorrent]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10558355 Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:15:26 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10558285 KraftDinner9 : if 40 KB/s is your max upload speed, then that may be your problem right there. When you're surfing the web, and you click on a page, you're sending (uploading) a request to view that page and then they send you the appropriate info to view their page. This is constantly going on if you're a quick surfer. So if you're uploading at your max, then of course page loading slows to a crawl, the webpage you're trying to get to hasnt gotten your request yet! same with msn, it might think you've timed out because msn hasnt reported back to their servers in x time like it was supposed to, so they disconnect. So if you dont wanna upload at your max, either get a third-party program like netlimiter or if you're bittorrenting, get azureus, you can limit your global upload for torrents. Hope that helps. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10558285 Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:53:29 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10558242 Marciff : I can't get over 40KB/s with torrents, but can get full speed with speed tests. When I am uploading at 40KB/s, my downloads slow down to a crawl (Pages don't load, MSN disconnects, etc)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10558242 Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:33:53 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10558204 KraftDinner9 : Guys check this link out, this may answer as to why you're getting slow speeds with your new high speed extreme:
»www.filelist.org/blacklist.php

the main line you should look at is: "The reason for this is that it is a common practice for ISPs to throttle those ports which means that bandwidth is limited and the speed suffers."

After subscribing to extreme highspeed, the settings that apply to you may also be port throttling settings they have in place. Try changing the "Incoming TCP listen port" to something like 49500, i could help.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10558204 Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:23:31 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10557806 Starling : My problem with slow uploads has been resolved. It was on Rogers’ side. I called Rogers about 4-5 days ago and spoke to 1st level tech. support. He went through some basic stuff with me (resets, speed tests,…) to determine where was the problem. He noted all my complains and said he would pass it to the 2nd level tech. support. Next 2 days I was getting calls from Rogers’ automotive caller to get notified that the problem is being worked on and has not been resolved yet. Last night I noted that my torrents upload speed went up. It is all back to normal. 5mbps down and 800kbps up.

btw I leave on South End of Ottawa.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10557806 Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:54:15 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10515526 vybe232 : hey ninja

it looks as if some SMC routers dont do very well with the MOTO surfboard modems.

Once i disconnected my SMC router everything works fine.

Ill be buying a new router.

older SMC routers are the problem to slow torrent speeds, mine was a 7004AWBR.

took a while to narrow down, but that was my issue.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10515526 Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:25:55 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10513978 DrRockin : I'm not on Extreme Yet, but here is something that I did to increase dl speeds. Open msconfig, under Startup Shut down all programs, then go to services, and shut down anything that isnt needed and that wont crash the computer. I shut down my anti Virus and firewall, Seems the firewall makes a big impact on the connection. Restart the comp and run your Torrent client. Basically you need to free up as much memory as possible. When I'm dl my availiable memory goes from 350k to 40. I use TorrentStorm, I went from dl speeds of 60k/sec to 250/ksec. Oh ya dont have too many dl at once, and change the dl settings to Pre-allocate instead of background.
This will us most of your system resorces so its a good plan to do if you can just leave the comp till its done downloading. Hope this helped, GL.:huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10513978 Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:39:30 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10476761 TeeJayDM : hey roboninja what modem are you using? Im having the same problem on MOST of the torrents, Im using the sb5100 plus bittornado, didnt change anything since I upgraded a couple of weeks ago.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10476761 Thu, 10 Jun 2004 22:04:13 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10474298 roboninja : I am having the same probs. Well-seeded torrents often DL at under 10k speeds, and most uploads will not go over 2k, even though there are several "leechers" connected, and my max UL speed in Azureus is 50k. This is just since I got Extreme yesterday. I changed no settings on my SMC Barricade 700VBR router (which forwards ports 6881-6999 to my PC), and I got better speeds with my old Teryon with regular service. Is Rogers limiting speeds on BitTorrent ports? Maybe I should change it to use non-standard ports...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10474298 Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:51:09 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10467982 anon : thankx, the problem is that my upload limit is between 80-100 kBs and I am able to upload on that speed for a long time (FTP, or WEB-server). BUT, when I use Azureus (bittorrent) or eMule - my upload does not go above 20-25 kBps. It did before. I'll call Rogers tomorrow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10467982 Thu, 10 Jun 2004 00:02:43 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10463482 TeeJayDM : What modem are you using?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10463482 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 15:39:59 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10461097 sbrook : No because there is no technical concept outside your computer of an open connection. To Rogers, they are just packets.

BUT beware if you start uploading, your download will slow down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10461097 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:45:33 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10460570 anon : I am on Extreme since May 14, 2004.

The speeds were awesome. I could easily download 10 torrents simultaneously + eMule with great total speeds - ~600/80 kB/s.
»raccess.ca/torrentspeed.JPG

Since about few days ago I started to experience slow connection when using torrent or eMule.
If I close them both and check my speed using online speed tests or FTP download/upload – the speed will be great as before. But as soon as I open torrent or eMule upload speed never gets above 20 kBs. More over, web surfing gets very slow. It looks like Computer, modem or ISP limits the maximum number of simultaneously open connections.

Tech. detailes:
My computer is connected directly to the WebStar DPX2100 modem with no soft or hardware firewalls or routers at all. Also, I didn’t install or change configuration of the software during those two weeks. The only thing I did is I upgraded Azureus. Tried to go back to old version – did not help. More over, eMule (with out torrent) does not upload much also. I tried to change eMule & torrent ports many times – didn’t help.

Modem’s specs
Software version: 2.0.1r1131-0304
Downstream: Power level – 1.1 dBmV; Signal to Noise Ratio – 38.3 dB
Upstream: Power level - 47.0 dBmV

My question is – Can ISP limit the number of simultaneously open connections?

tut@rogers.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10460570 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 09:23:53 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10458936 coldpower27 : Well, I am not sure, Torrent Downloading has been great on my connection so far.
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My Download
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10458936 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 00:48:07 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10450170 Jhero : weird, most xdcc's dont go over 200kb/s for me :(
--
Rogers Xtreme ^^]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10450170 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 06:32:15 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10449533 TeeJayDM : did rogers do anything with the new docsis modem? coz im getting really bad results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10449533 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:49:47 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10425777 I2icky : don't quote me on this, but it seems like the new modems don't work so great with some routers. I don't think it can be compared with the Terayon since they're of a different standard and are newer.

Also, i had the 15k cap when uploading to BT a few days ago, but a restart on my modem solved the issue. Try restarting both your modem as well as your router to see if it helps any :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10425777 Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:27:01 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10425015 anon : i got a BEFSR41+SB5100 and now torrents soooo slow...if i d/l from irc like a 300 mb avi..i get like over 3.5~4 MB/s (depending how fast the XDCC servers are) but torrents donn even go past 10KB/s and even if i set the upload to like 60KB/s it doesn't even go up to that..just stays at like 15KB/s..i donn think its the router prob..since i had the the teryon hooked up earlier and torrents speeds were fast..all port forwarding setting and same as i had it earlier...what's wrong..hmmm..sigh :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10425015 Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:58:44 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10402877 PuReNocD : Since iv gotten EHS my torrent downloading hasnt been the same.When i had just the plain jane high speed i could download at my maximum throughput (300 kb/s or so) and still be able to upload at 20 kb/s or so without any degredation in quality.Now i cant even get 150 kb/s or even a steady 10 kb/s upload.

FYI i use Bittornado.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10402877 Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:54:08 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10400614 TeeJayDM : I got really fast speed in the redhat iso but Im still getting slow speed were it really matters. Any tweak to fix this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10400614 Wed, 02 Jun 2004 08:35:43 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10399792 vybe232 : great! glad it helped you test your connection out!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10399792 Wed, 02 Jun 2004 03:04:26 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10391337 TeeJayDM : There you go, Im getting the right speed, thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10391337 Tue, 01 Jun 2004 08:56:21 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10390107 vybe232 : Here is my suggestion

go to s*uprnova
go to the apps/linux section and download

Fedora 2 I386 CDS

that t*rrent is always seeded VERY well, i usually get 300-600k on this dl. It is a good one to TEST your connection with if you have any doubt.

As for client, ive tried SO MANY...the one i use is azureus. Yes it uses java and is cpu intensive, but if you have a fast computer, this shouldnt be too much of a problem, as it has the BEST performance IMO.

make sure to put in your local ip in the bind to address in the config, and set the tracker external ip address (let it auto detect) in the config of the program.

I hope this helps.

BTW: some torrents just dont go that fast....you have to get a really well seeded one to achieve really great speeds.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10390107 Tue, 01 Jun 2004 01:52:24 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10389769 I2icky : ABC is pretty good]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10389769 Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:56:19 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10389685 anon : Im getting great speeds, theres nothing wrong except for my torrent download. Im using bit tornado, maybe if I change client. any good bt client recommendation]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10389685 Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:41:25 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10389507 I2icky : Maybe it's congestion....

i'm getting bad speeds as well...

*sigh* i knew it wouldn't last :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10389507 Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:13:04 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10389495 anon : now im having trouble, I cant go faster than 100KBytes per sec. The fastest I got is 77KBytes, used to get 150+ everytime I download this type of torrent.

I tried downloading a file from m$ , its a media player installation file, I got ~ 600KBytes.

Im using a motorola sb5100, no router, direct connection, Im using the usb connected to the usb 2.0 pci card.

help please...
TY]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10389495 Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:09:45 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10377651 vybe232 : so here is the verdict....

late last night, i disconnected my router, and used my 100mb switch and the cable modem direct...and poof.

i started downloading 2 torrents at about 300-460k....

its wierd, during the day when i first got the modem it wouldnt download more than 20k, i called rogers, and complained, then hooked it up direct later that evening and all is well now.

i have an old smc 7004awbr router, that doesnt let me port forward a range of IP, but this was never a problem with my old terayon, i got 150k using that. But new modem, needs a better router i guess, that or something else.

But for now, a direct connection to the modem even through my switch works great, and VERY FAST.

so Im VERY happy at this point.
But im not sure why it didnt work straight away yesterday, even after plugging it in direct.

regardless it works now.

THANKS to EVERYONE for their help.

esp. cyboy and budda.

peace]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10377651 Sun, 30 May 2004 14:24:43 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373988 vybe232 : any toshiba users reading this post that want to help me troubleshoot /compare torrent speeds msg me on msn msngr

vybe22@Hotmail.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373988 Sat, 29 May 2004 23:07:16 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373926 cyboy :
said by buddha2oo4 See Profile:
cyboy,

where abouts are you; and which modem u got? i'm in mississauga and i can't get bitcomet to get any higher than 25 KB/s ..

i'm connecting straight to the modem running sygate personal firewall .. i really wanna see if i can get my BT to 500+ KB/s.

i tried your settings and again; i can't get past 25 KB/s .. lemmie know where you are / which modem u have ..

buddha2oo4


Richmond Hill with Mototola SB5100]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373926 Sat, 29 May 2004 23:00:11 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373908 buddha2oo4 : cyboy,

where abouts are you; and which modem u got? i'm in mississauga and i can't get bitcomet to get any higher than 25 KB/s ..

i'm connecting straight to the modem running sygate personal firewall .. i really wanna see if i can get my BT to 500+ KB/s.

i tried your settings and again; i can't get past 25 KB/s .. lemmie know where you are / which modem u have ..

buddha2oo4]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373908 Sat, 29 May 2004 22:58:23 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373430 vybe232 : one more question cy..

in this client, does your download speed per torrent being downloaded fluctuate alot?

i go from 50 k down to 15 then back up to 50...errrr]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373430 Sat, 29 May 2004 21:44:17 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373399 vybe232 : cyboy...through this client..how long after clicking a link, do you usually have to wait before you see speeds above 30k upwards...is it instant..or do you wait for a certain period of time.

thanks for all the help thus far.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373399 Sat, 29 May 2004 21:39:37 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373209 vybe232 : hey cyboy [IM me to get my address so we can discuss more on MSN messenger ]

if you are on messenger thx]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10373209 Sat, 29 May 2004 21:11:18 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372978 cyboy :
said by vybe232 See Profile:
cyboy can you tell me what tracker config you have and what ports you have in azureus?

also in the server setting field what you use...
and any other info i could use to try to get this to work.

thanks


Using BitComet, only set to no limit on DL rate and 50 on upload rate, nothing else change.
Didn't touch anything about port (either router or program) since it config the port itself (UPnP).. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372978 Sat, 29 May 2004 20:31:46 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372841 buddha2oo4 : nah it's not the client .. mine is a little faster (i got it up to 280k/s) .. but i wanna know how cyboy got 604kb/s w/ the same modem and extreme (motorola surfboard)

buddha2oo4]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372841 Sat, 29 May 2004 20:11:02 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372628 anon : maybe try changing client?

or maybe your client is being chocked...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372628 Sat, 29 May 2004 19:36:20 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372626 vybe232 : cyboy can you tell me what tracker config you have and what ports you have in azureus?

also in the server setting field what you use...
and any other info i could use to try to get this to work.

thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372626 Sat, 29 May 2004 19:35:53 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372612 cyboy : But that's not my case... same modem w/ extreme.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372612 Sat, 29 May 2004 19:33:59 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372472 vybe232 : it seems many torrents are slow off sites like supr
but before my modem upgrade, everything seemed to go pretty quick...

i did get about 150k off of the gumball rally torrent in the movies/cars section of supr

but for tme most part general torrents even ones with lots of people on it seem to go VERY SLOW compared to what i had before...this is very frustrating..

do you guys think i should exchange my moto surfboard for a toshiba....?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372472 Sat, 29 May 2004 19:13:06 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372260 I2icky : I think that this is actually happening to me too, although i can't really confirm

please post a torrent that you know is fast so that i can try too. Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10372260 Sat, 29 May 2004 18:43:00 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371993 buddha2oo4 : hey vybe .. i'm adding you too .. let's figure out what's going on ..

buddha2oo4]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371993 Sat, 29 May 2004 17:50:09 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371955 vybe232 : hey djmau108

can you post a torrent link that you are getting with the speed you are hitting, and ill try the same one?

msg me on msn msngr if you are on

vybe22@Hotmail.com
thx]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371955 Sat, 29 May 2004 17:42:04 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371932 buddha2oo4 : hey man .. i'm using sygate personal firewall (so not all ports are open) lol ..

i have no idea why it slowed down so much .. but i think it may have something to do with the DrTCP settings i changed recently lol .. i need to see how to revert back to default lol.

buddha2oo4

ps., if that's not it; then i have no idea what would be causing the BT slowdown]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371932 Sat, 29 May 2004 17:38:42 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371921 anon : im acheiving max possible with my surfboard...

max possible as in the torrents that acutally hold enought users to give me throughoutput...

if you got one for me to test, please post

(sorry im posting from my uncles computer, dont feel like signing in lol)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371921 Sat, 29 May 2004 17:37:01 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371882 vybe232 : hey buddah

so you are getting the same bt issue huh...do you have all the ports open? i have the same setup but when i swapped modem..slow speeds..argggg i want to fix this badd]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371882 Sat, 29 May 2004 17:30:14 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371871 buddha2oo4 : i'm using the surfboard .. same issue with BT here (it's weird because i actually got this modem about 6 months ago when my lancity died) lol.

any ideas?

buddha2oo4]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371871 Sat, 29 May 2004 17:28:14 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371839 vybe232 : no i am using the motorola surfboard]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371839 Sat, 29 May 2004 17:21:17 EDT Re: switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371811 jaguar_2515 : are you using the Webstar? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371811 Sat, 29 May 2004 17:14:35 EDT switched to EXTREME now torrents are SLOW!>?!? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371703 vybe232 : hi guys...i switched to extreme yesterday...my torrents on my regular terayon modem were getting speeds of 100k and up.

NOW on extreme my torrent downloads are getting barely 20k!!!???

all the settings are the same.

Ive tried downloading behind the router and right off the modem with the same result.

a speed test give me dl speed of 528kb sec

everything else works great...any ideas!??!?

ive also tried using different ports for torrent, with the same crap results...

help!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10371703 Sat, 29 May 2004 16:55:35 EDT