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Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Western E I signed with Packet8 a few days ago, and I was very happy with the quality. I was speaking with many people in Israel - it costs nothing.
I was a little bit tempted to return my device for a refund (i didn't use 300 minutes yet) and sign with Lingo but i made my calculations - - - I'll have to ship the device back to them (that's like 10 bucks) within 7 days of cancellation, and then I'll have to pay 29.99 + 9.99 shipping which is 39.99. It's like 2 months of service. Then the 10 bucks of the delivery - - - so it's like I'm saving only 10 dollars and all the headache.
I spole to packet 8 and told them about the competition. I asked if they'll offer me a discounted plan or 3 months free so I won't switch. They said no. They also promised a supervisor will call me to my cell - - - never did.
I called Lingo and I spoke to a nice Indian girl WHO PROMISED ME THEYRE LOCATED IN VIRGINIA! What the??? I said, are you sure you're in Virginia right now???
BTW - first time I called LINGO I was asked how I heard about their service, I said the Internet, and they tranfered me only to get the following message: The subscriber you called doesn't have a voicemail, goodbye ***
So, what shall we do? Just wait a few more weeks, see where things are going. I don't have anyone in Western Europe so the deal isn't that hot. And 3 cents a minute to Israel in such a great quality and comfort (not having to dial 1010987 anymore...) is fun. Not to mention my fathers shock to the fact that I'm calling him and not the other way around. |
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 CorvusFlaming Tards Since 2003Premium,VIP
join:2003-11-26 | reply to arl6
I'm with Primus VoIP here in Canada, I got a D-Link DVG-1120 VoIP gateway. Service is ok, nothing to complain.
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Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Weste After you pay...log in and check...looks like they have waived the activation and shipping for me...bringing the total to zero like what others have posted
I joined some time monday afternoon( Jan 7th) |
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Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Western E Well I too called.
Firstly sales rep (who spoke perfect English but did have an "indian accent"). I don't know whether he was in India or just applied for and got the job his English was just dandy so I am not going to complain. He told me shipping and activation is waived!!!
I then spoke to tech support. I asked about bandwidth I was told minium 250kbps. I asked what Codec the guy said hold on. Controllable according to him, G711, G729, and G723. I told him their bandwidth usage and he wrote it down and asked for a reference. Definately a little green but helpfull. He was clearly reading the "manual" when I asked my Codec question.
Then he dropped the BOMSHELL. Oh yeah, it also a T.38 fax support "whatever that means". I don't think he understood why I just said what? T.38 are you sure??? He said yes it has T.38 fax support.
I went to the website to sign up for a Toronto number and noticed they were charging $5 for the number. I decided to wait, today they don't have a Toronto number at all. I will have to call to find out what the story is. At $25 I think I will order, at $30 I won't bother. |
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mkeyes
join:2003-07-02
Hamilton, OH | Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Weste I was wondering if I move my local number to Lingo will my number stay active on my landline until its been moved over or will it immediately go into limbo? |
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Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Western E Well, does sound good but I am not going to use it unless they are going to offer Russia Unlimited! American POTC phone company PRMUS already offers Russia unlimited for $40 a month but I don't use anymore POTS. I am thinking going back to SBC as local and Primus as long distance... Unless my current provider (Vonage)or somebody else starts offering Russia Unlimited! |
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 davoice
join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
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Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Weste said by wooster0:
After you pay...log in and check...looks like they have waived the activation and shipping for me...bringing the total to zero like what others have posted
FWIW, they may be waiving it after you sign up, but be sure to check your credit card statement. When I signed up, they did an authorization for $39.90 on my credit card. Luckily my credit card company shows me all authorization activity in addition to settled transactions.
So they've basically reserved $40 on my credit card and have the right to settle the transaction for up to 115% of that amount if they so choose. Now if they don't settle the transaction, it will drop off in a few days and the $40 will float back onto my credit limit. Either way, they are at least temporarily holding funds on your credit card to make sure you have some level of available credit.
Considering the service is $19.95/mo, it's just a little odd to me that they figured up their fees and such to amount to exactly 2x the monthly fee. So in doing an authorization for $39.90, they're actually seeing that you have enough available credit to pay for 2 months of service.
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garys_2kPremium
join:2004-05-07
Farmington, MI Reviews:
 ·Callcentric
·Future Nine Corp..
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said by nsumner:
Then he dropped the BOMSHELL. Oh yeah, it also a T.38 fax support "whatever that means". I don't think he understood why I just said what? T.38 are you sure??? He said yes it has T.38 fax support.
Just remember that T.38 is meaningless unless you call another VoIP fax user that also has it. It does not make faxing to POTS-based fax machines any more reliable. |
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| Gary, from my understanding you are absolutely wrong. My understanding of how T.38 faxing works is like this.
First your fax communicates on it's "phone line" to your DTA which takes the analog fax info and converts is to digital informaiton. It then sends that digital informaiton on to your VOIP provider who then converts it back to analog and puts in on the POTS. In the process though you haven't lost any of the analog information through the compression the codec is using because you really aren't using the codec.
This does not require or even expect to other fax machine to be T38. True there must be two T.38 gateways in the mix. The first by you the second where you drop back onto pots (or theoretically by the second fax machine if they are also using VOIP). So it really doesn't matter what fax machine you are calling it should work very reliably.
In fact it should actually be more reliable for me to fax NA from Israel using t38 then any other method! |
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Yeah....right, Virginia ! They are located in Mumbay, India. I have asked them how was the weather this morning in Virginia, where they are located....could not tell....they don't have windows in the calling center !!!!
I used to have Primus for intl. calls before and I spoke with a manager in Primus, that confirmed that they are in Mumbay (they are pissed off as well); SOME of tech support are in US, and they serve Primus LD and the VoIP as well. Not too great ! |
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Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Western E Look's like Canada dropped of the list of places where you can choose to get a number from.....
RDP |
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garys_2kPremium
join:2004-05-07
Farmington, MI Reviews:
·Callcentric
·Future Nine Corp..
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Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Weste said by nsumner:
Gary, from my understanding you are absolutely wrong. My understanding of how T.38 faxing works is like this.
First your fax communicates on it's "phone line" to your DTA which takes the analog fax info and converts is to digital informaiton. It then sends that digital informaiton on to your VOIP provider who then converts it back to analog and puts in on the POTS. In the process though you haven't lost any of the analog information through the compression the codec is using because you really aren't using the codec.
This does not require or even expect to other fax machine to be T38. True there must be two T.38 gateways in the mix. The first by you the second where you drop back onto pots (or theoretically by the second fax machine if they are also using VOIP). So it really doesn't matter what fax machine you are calling it should work very reliably.
In fact it should actually be more reliable for me to fax NA from Israel using t38 then any other method!
So you know, for a fact, that this startup VoIP provider will have two T.38 fax links? They don't seem to document that they support it on one end at all, I'd hate to assume that they fully implement it.
But yes, if done right it can be decoded back to analog and put on the PSTN to the destination machine. |
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Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Western E Yup, Canada dropped off the list. I spoke with somebody today and they said it was because of a bug. They automatically charged me $5 for a Canadian number but then I only got a Canadian number and not an American number. If you want a Canadian number you can sign up with a US number and add a virtual Canadian number for $5. Otherwise if you later wanted a US number they would have charged you for it.
Reasonable enough in truth though I would prefer if they gave me the Canadian #. |
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| I would switch from Packet8 when there $19.95 plan will include unlimited calls to Poland !~!
this is the $19.95 plan
Western European subscription includes calls from Lingo subscriber to the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Ireland, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, Austria, Luxembourg, Vatican City, Norway, Portugal, and Spain. Calls to mobile phones are not included.
this is the $79.95 Plan
Select International subscription includes calls from Lingo subscribers to Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Chile, China, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Mexico City, Guadalajara, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, the United Kingdom, the United States, and Vatican City. Calls to mobile phones are not included. |
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ieee1394Premium
join:2001-08-25
Washington | reply to garys_2k
Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Weste said by garys_2k:
But yes, if done right it can be decoded back to analog and put on the PSTN to the destination machine.
That is the general idea of T.38. Your first post was incorrect. |
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 ozzny5YankeefanPremium
join:2002-04-23
Bronx, NY | reply to arl6
i am signing up |
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ozzny5YankeefanPremium
join:2002-04-23
Bronx, NY | reply to arl6
Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Western E i just signed up.
they are charging the $29.95 activation fee and the $9.95 shipping fee but now you get 3 months of free service.
should take about 5 business days to receive the equipment.
i will post later on when i try the service. |
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arl6
join:2001-05-17
Miami Beach, FL | Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Weste Ozzny: When you log in to your account, under orders, does it show that you are being charged? |
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 bbrlogueLearning New Things DailyPremium
join:2003-12-07
Alexandria, VA | reply to ehudsegev
Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Western E >> called Lingo and I spoke to a nice Indian girl WHO PROMISED ME THEYRE LOCATED IN VIRGINIA! What the??? I said, are you sure you're in Virginia right now??? If they claim they are in Virginia, ask them how the Cicadas are doing (they're just about done with their loud orgy here). If they don't even know what you're talking about, they're most likely not in VA.... |
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garys_2kPremium
join:2004-05-07
Farmington, MI Reviews:
·Callcentric
·Future Nine Corp..
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Re: Lingo VOIP- $19.95 unlimited US, Canada, Weste said by ieee1394:
said by garys_2k:
But yes, if done right it can be decoded back to analog and put on the PSTN to the destination machine.
That is the general idea of T.38. Your first post was incorrect.
Sigh... Not to pick nits, but IF it is FULLY implemented it works bridged to a POTS line, otherwise it won't. |
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