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Re: Linksys RV042 lacks SMTP Binding Llama chan:
I'm not sure what the point of the thread you referenced is in the context of the present. Did Xincom over state their routers' future capability? Probably. Did they mis-understand the limitations of routers re aggregation? Maybe. Is a $200 Xincom capable of doing what some dual-WAN users need well enough to not have to pay much bigger bucks for a Zyxel? Most likely. Is the Xincom up-time reliability better than my Hawking? I would hope so. Does one get better service at the $1k price point than the $0.2k price point? You betcha. Will a 502 do what I need? That may require my buying one to find out.
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 AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium
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kudos:3 | I think the point is that with many of these latest offerings xincom 502 600 series as well as Zywall 70, there isnt much feedback out there yet.......
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| SPending 1000k for a router defeats my need. I need more bandwidth cheap. At $800 more for a router that is an additional year of service. I would rather get a cheaper router and add a 4th line. I have 3 now 2dsl 1 cable. Now if I was some IT guy at a small to midsize, I would consider the 1k router. But keep in mind that the nexland pro800 turbo became a 1k router and that was just one big rip off. |
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AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium
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kudos:3 | No argument for me, I also believe they should not be as costly, but remember actual credible support and firmware R@D etc is not without a price. That is built into the cost.
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Re: Known Dual Wan Routers for Those of you looking It would be interesting to know if Nexland ever made any money before being bought by Symantec. I suspect not. I would be surprised if Xincom were already making money. [Making money implies not only paying for current expenses, but also paying off principal and putative interest of whatever initial funding they received.] If a company isn't bought out to remove competition, or to buy IP, then it has to achieve a certain scale of production to remain viable (except in the Defense industry, where in return for low profits and one-customer unpredictable purchasing, R&D and overhead are negotiated and paid for by the customer.)
I think that, in a sense, the prices paid for the products of early entries in the router race are a bargain, if the products work.
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| Re: Known Dual Wan Routers for Those of you lookin I have the RV042 from Linksys - and it works - kinda.
You can set it up for Auto Load balancing, or "manual" load balancing. However, what it does in manual mode is detects the speed of the primary connection. Then, when a certain percentage of that speed is exceeded, it will switch completely over to the 2nd connection. All traffic goes on that connection from that point on, until the "switchover" time expires.
So - no load balancing as we know it. Just switching over to a 2nd connection under certain circumstances.
Auto Load balancing appears to switch between the two randomly. Which is kinda ok and kinda not ok.
In my situation, I want the network to go over connection 1 always, except for when I talk to IP range X and Y.
No problem I think - I'll setup some static routes. Well - static routes ONLY work (again kinda) when DHCP is turned OFF.
And then I find that the router get's stuck sometimes on one or the other WAN port. Randomly it appears.
Even though I have static routing input for what I want - it appears to ignore that at times.
So - does it work ? Kinda.
My favorite situation is when I am starting a download - it get's about 300k of a portion of it, and then hangs the download. I think because it wants to switch the download in the middle to the other WAN. This happens randomly - and you can get the download running by attempting it several times. But it's a pain in the butt.
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| Just got off the chat with linksys - here is what they say about the problem:
Kevin: RV042 routing problems
Kevin: Hi.
Edward Javier: Welcome to Linksys Technical Online Chat! One moment please, while I review your information.
Edward Javier: what do you mean by routing problems?
Kevin: let me give you the background.
Kevin: WAN1 = Cable modem 512Kbup/5MBps down
Kevin: WAN2 = T1 1.5up/1.5down
Kevin: DHCP off
Kevin: 3 static routes set.
Kevin: 2 of which specifically state for a 255.255.255.0 route to WAN2
Kevin: the other is 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 via WAN1
Kevin: yet - the router randomly chooses between WAN1 and WAN2
Kevin: Load balance = ON
Kevin: Auto Balance = ON
Edward Javier: One moment please, while I review that information.
Kevin: ok
Edward Javier: One moment please...
Kevin: still waiting.. it's a tough question.
Edward Javier: ok.. basically your refering to static routing, linksys technical support do not supports static routing configuration.. but it is confirmed to work w/ our router..
Edward Javier: what you could do is send an email at support@linksys.com..
Kevin: ? You have static routing setup on the router, but you don't support it?
Edward Javier: they are the ones who could provide you documentations on what you could do w/ regards to the static routing option in our router..
Kevin: they = support@linksys.com
Edward Javier: yes, that is true... we have a static routing tab in our router..
Edward Javier: right.. our email department support@linksys.com
Kevin: um. ok. you can't help me then?
Edward Javier: im sorry but yes..
Good ol linksys. F**ktards. |
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AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium
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kudos:3 | Lone Register read my comments in the small print
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said by LoneRegister:
Anyone else have experience with the Linksys RV series?
Square peg, round hole. My advice: RUN for another brand!!! My price/performance favorite is Zyxel Zywall but Sonicwall works fine too. Although it has a few flaws read the NetworkWorld review. Somebody actually sat down with dual WAN routers, connected them and after some getting familiar time they moved on to the next model and in the end gave an opinion. |
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| Maybe I am the only one that wants this but I want a router that offers Dual Wan, IPsec VPN Server for regular use and also PPTP VPN Server(for the occasional emergency where all I need is to find a box running XP and I can get on our network). You can get PPTP Server on some cheep single WAN routers but the minute you get into dual WAN it is all IPsec which makes some sense due to the security issues with PPTP. Most of the dual Wan products out there:
GnatBox - NO PPTP
Symantec VPN 200
Nexland Pro800 - NOW Symantec
BroDigit NFR3024
Hawking FR24 - NO VPN
Xincom XC-DPG402 - NO PPTP
Xincom XC-DPG502
Xincom XC-DPG602
HotBrick Firewall VPN 600/2 - NO PPTP
HotBrick Firewall VPN 1200/2 - NO PPTP
ZyXel ZyWall 35/70 - NO PPTP
Linksys RV082 - NO PPTP
Edimax BR-6104K/5524 - NO VPN
Pheenet BIG-02/4
Zero One Technology AF420b - NO VPN
Xterasys XR-4106
Ovislink MH-200 - SAME as Xterasys
Longshine LCS-883R-DSL-2W
TRENDware/Trendnet
CyberGuard/Snapgear - PPTP, IPsec
Juniper/Netscreen
Linksys/Cisco RV082 - NO PPTP
FatPipe Networks - NO PPTP
Sonicwall TZ 170 - NO PPTP
It seems the only two that will do both is the CyberGuard/SnapGear and the Xterasys. Our VPN needs are just a few users so we don't need a higher end device so I gave the Xterasys a go. The CyberGuard would meet our needs well from playing with the online emulator they have.
Xterasys seems to be a generic OEM company and the same router is sold as the Ovislink MH-200. It is built using waveplus.com's RISC OEM chip set. It is as generic as you get, no company name in the manual, the GUI or the box and Xterasys's name is just a sticker on the box. So any future support or firmware upgrades you may never get but for $140 the box is very impressive in features for a small office solution and it works well. The bandwidth sharing was much better than what we experienced with the Linksys RV082. There are some nice bandwidth analysis features. |
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| Just as a data point routers do everything you need and more. They are above the price of the ones you list also. |
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kudos:2 | reply to amzulu
Check Vigor 2900 Router, Firewall and VPN Device:
•Combination Ethernet router, VPN Device, Firewall and print-server
•High performance VPN supports up to 16 simultaneous VPN tunnels.
•Dial-in or dial-out, LAN-to-LAN or Teleworker-to-LAN
•Protocol support for PPTP, L2TP, IPSec
•VPN Passthrough for VPN client/server running behind the router
•Virtual LAN (VLAN) & Bandwidth Throttling
•Multi-NAT
And much more... for the price around $170.
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