Re: Who cares in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r10455538 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:58:51 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:58:51 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10460187 GNXPower : Well POTS doesn't always work. During the last big N.E. power outtage for instance, phones went dead too. Plus add to that the fact that the vast majority of todays telephones are so fully featured they require 110V service anyway.

9-1-1 in and of itself isn't selling POTS. It's the lack of an alternative that is selling POTS.
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10.98@121]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10460187 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 08:15:34 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10460112 Pz_ : I concur. At 15 bucks a month, you just can't beat it. Not to mention you get extra geeks points for having it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10460112 Wed, 09 Jun 2004 07:57:27 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10457889 SBC ST : If the customer is using their DSL as the broadband source, it would be utilizing the same physical infrastructure as the traditional POTS. So yes, that signal will be there no matter what*.

And on the second part, if the Verizon VoIP customer is not using the Verizon network (DSL line) for the broadband connection, there is no way to give the customer a traditional "backup" POTS line. (unless you try to work something out with the local ILEC, but good luck!) :-)

* barring any unforseen circumstances, 99.99% network reliability.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10457889 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:41:50 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10456542 pnh102 : But isn't reliability needed to match the kind of availability you get with POTS-provided 911 service? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I am seriously wondering. The main selling point of POTS is that 911 always works, even during a power outage or other major disaster. Unless the underlaying broadband connection is as rock-solid, VOIP cannot sell 911 on that kind of promise.

One alternative for Verizon would be to include the POTS line at no extra charge (or for $5 a month or some other obscenely cheap rate). Give it as freebie for DSL customers.
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Keep America Strong! Bush/Cheney 2004]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10456542 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 20:32:18 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455816 GNXPower : No they wouldn't. It's certainly not stopping Broadvoice, Vonage, VoicePulse, Packet8 and others from getting customers. You add that with the perceived reliability of the Verizon name and they'll have no problem attracting custoemrs (especially if they ditch the POTS requirement for DSL).
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10.98@121]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455816 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 19:13:48 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455538 pnh102 :
said by GNXPower See Profile:
If Verizon gets into the mix and can provide a better 9-1-1 solution, it will attract even more people.

Verizon would need to provide a rock-solid network connection at a low cost for that to happen. They can do it if they wanted to, the question is will they.
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Keep America Strong! Bush/Cheney 2004]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455538 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 18:41:47 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455271 GNXPower : It applies enough that Vonage is able to sell retail kits at Radio Shack, Circuit City, Amazon and Best Buy. It obviosly applies enough that the incumbants are rushing to come up with VoIP solutions of their own.

VoIP is going to revolutionize home communications just like cheap digital cellular did for mobile communications. I use Broadvoice and Vonage, and both suit me just fine. If Verizon gets into the mix and can provide a better 9-1-1 solution, it will attract even more people.
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10.98@121]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455271 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 18:07:56 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455242 Lord Pancake : Well, all I hear is crap about VoIP this, VoIP that. And it doesn't apply to very many people. Especially the common internet/phone user.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455242 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 18:05:13 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455216 GNXPower : You obviously care enough to make a useless post about it.
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10.98@121]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455216 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 18:03:01 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455116 SquareSlinky : You can get reliable VOIP now with Vonage. I have had it a year and it works great. And they keep lowering the price for it!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10455116 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:52:28 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10454917 DonLibes : But it is aimed at others - like me. I have no home phone or VoIP - but I'm not quite happy with my unreliable cellular service. I'd consider VoIP if the price was right as a supplement to my cellular service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10454917 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:28:51 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10454601 hescominsoon : unless they undercut current viop providers or truly unbundle dsl...getting viop from vz right now jsut does ont make sense. I have a landline with them witht he freedom package(rural area..ell coverage not good to non-existant) and dsl...unless they want to drop my vz freedom plan at 40 something a month and make my dsl stay at 30/month and add less than 40/month for voip there is on reason to do it..at least not for me.
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God Bless »www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10454601 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:55:16 EDT Re: Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10454595 klamer : I care.

Competition is a good thing.
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But where does the meat go? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10454595 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:54:50 EDT Who cares http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10454583 Lord Pancake : More useless crap I could care less about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10454583 Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:53:03 EDT