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Re: Known Dual Wan Routers for Those of you looking HELLO....
please can someone tellme if there is any software to share 2 Internet connections with one pc?
I have 2 aDSL connections in my house.. a 1.1mb and 0.5mb... can i not use just XP and some software for load balancing/sharing without buying a router with 2 WAN ports..
I am 99% sure i once saw on the net some software that does this, but i can't find it now 
I don't want to buy the hardware as i will only have these 2 connections for a couple of months,...
any ideas?
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| Personally, if you're only gonna have the 2 lines for a couple of months, I wouldn't even bother using the 0.5mb one. |
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| Heya...
i managed to sort it out.. used sygate homeoffice.. worked perfect... using download accelerator connected multiple times to servers i got 180+ k/s downloads.. woohoo.
After a couple of days tho it stopped working and crashes hha... tried nat32 but didn't work properly.
If there is any other applications that anyone knows of, that would be great?  |
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
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Re: Known Dual Wan Routers for Those of you lookin said by Acoloss:
please can someone tellme if there is any software to share 2 Internet connections with one pc?
Yes. Get a copy of Linux and the Advanced Routing How-To.
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I have 2 aDSL connections in my house.. a 1.1mb and 0.5mb... can i not use just XP and some software for load balancing/sharing without buying a router with 2 WAN ports..
There is no way naively to do this in your case. I also know of no software that runs in Windows that will do it for multiple interfaces. You might be able to hobble something up with VMWare and linux, but it would be a PITA and performance would likely suck. |
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| said by cdru:
said by Acoloss:
please can someone tellme if there is any software to share 2 Internet connections with one pc?
Yes. Get a copy of Linux and the Advanced Routing How-To.
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I have 2 aDSL connections in my house.. a 1.1mb and 0.5mb... can i not use just XP and some software for load balancing/sharing without buying a router with 2 WAN ports..
There is no way naively to do this in your case. I also know of no software that runs in Windows that will do it for multiple interfaces. You might be able to hobble something up with VMWare and linux, but it would be a PITA and performance would likely suck.
Vicomsoft surfdoubler does it. Sygate does it. And a few others will. Also you can do it with mutlihoming and windows xp if you do not mind working with routing tables and manually setting routes based on interface and ip. The best use of doing this would be usenet. You would have each connection routed to a diff usenet server and use newsbin pro to connect to each server. I have 3 connections load balanced now. I have 2 6.0 dsl on my nexland pro 800 turbo and I feed it inot one of my ports on my xincom 502 with the other port on a 4.0 cable modem. The nexland actually does more than the 8megs that was in its specks.
Needless to say if my internet goes completly down it seems like an act of god .
1.5 megaBYTES a second is fun. I can download 4 moives divx in the time it takes to watch one. I pulleddown doom 3 in less than 20 minutes. |
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chuckwh
join:2003-12-20
North Bend, WA | Linksys RV042 lacks SMTP Binding I recently bought and installed a linksys RV042. I've got a Small Business Server that I intended to put behind the RV042. Problem: When the SBS tries to send out mail with SMTP, it gets assigned WAN1 or WAN2 randomly. Lots of other SMTP servers out there apparently do a reverse DNS lookup before accepting mail, so my mail gets sent only if WAN2 was chosen.
What I need, of course, is "SMTP Binding". I've gone through all the setup menus, and even called Linksys support. No, it doesn't exist, and it's not planned in the next firmware upgrade. It seems that until my call, nobody even suspected they needed it.
Moral: Don't but the RV042 (or RV082) expecting to put a mail server behind it. |
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 AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium
join:2001-07-16
Dartmouth, NS
kudos:3 | On the ZyWALL routers 35/70I believe ensuring 'binding' of outgoing traffic is covered under Policy Routing. |
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| It is true that the router doesn’t have that function (not sure if there are routers that do)… but the problem here is not the router, is just that you need to setup PTR records on both lines not just WAN2.
Alternatively you can use the Router on Backup mode or simply use a Smarthost (which would be my choice).
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but the problem here is not the router, is just that you need to setup PTR records on both lines not just WAN2
Exactly true. Bonding (two or more lines with a single IP address in this case) requires ISP support in addition to router support (read "pay your ISP enough and they'll do it for you"). It is not worth the money in this case since all you need is proper DNS entries. Multi-homed machines like this are very common. They work fine once all of the configuration details are done. |
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said by javiergomez:
It is true that the router doesn’t have that function (not sure if there are routers that do)… but the problem here is not the router, is just that you need to setup PTR records on both lines not just WAN2.
Alternatively you can use the Router on Backup mode or simply use a Smarthost (which would be my choice).
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Javier [SBS MVP]
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The xincom routers do smtp binding to an interface. Also if you want to use both connections for incoming mail simply setup the second connection in the mx record for the damians you are hosting.
If the second connection is dynamic simply use a service like dyndns.org. It is free and many routers support it to update the dynamic ip so that it points to the second connection always. |
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| Also note to the oigianl poster. It is not nexland pro800, it is the nexland pro800 turbo. The turbo is important as the 800 is not a dual wan router. I would hate for some |
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The Hawking FR24 (now sold refurbished by Hawking) has a sharing mode using rules, allowing routing by source IP [range], destination IP [range], and port [range]. Any activity not corresponding to a rule goes out WAN1, unless WAN1 is unavailable, in which case the router uses WAN2, and vice versa. As soon as I get time I plan to test Thunderbird with two SMTP and POP3 address pairs, each routed within Verizon or GWI networks.
Unfortunately, the Hawking seems to have some problem in my context where after 10 to 20 hours it goes incommunicado and has to be repowered. I caught it this morning communicado, but slow and apparently* not following the rules. Repowering fixed it. With the endless possibilities for ADSL modem and DSLAM disturbances, and ISP hacking countermeasures that may not be compatible with the router's methods of testing connectivity, it is hard to pin the blame on the Hawking with certainty,** but when this situation gets sufficiently tiresome, I will have to move higher on the router food chain. Too bad Anav's Z35 solution is 10 times the cost of the Hawking, and three times the cost of the Xincom 502.
kirby
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*Or, it could have resulted from one ISP's connection being down for a while or ADSL modem retraining.
** My GWI connection would also break my Nexland ISB SOHO [single WAN] router after a while (or whenever GWI support tried to improve my connection), requiring reloading the firmware(!). My tentative suspicion is that these older routers do not allow for some type of recently adopted message type or format, and develop memory leaks when exposed to them. My SOHO ran tirelessly for years on Verizon PPPoE, but other owners reported problems whenever their cable company changed the interface. |
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| Let me help you the hyawking is "Crap" I have one it is a paper wieght. They are making the early basic mistakes that nexland made and I simply did not have the time for them to "learn" how to make a dua wan router.
I am sure you would be happier with a xincom or even an old nexland pro 800 turbo over that hawking crap. |
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Why should I expect the Nexland Pro 800 Turbo to keep working under conditions where the Nexland ISB SOHO would break? Given the close match of their menus, and the tendency for Nexland's firmware upgrades to come out in sets, I believe that much of the software is the same. For $50 I was willing to experiment with the Hawking. For the ~$150 that 800s go for, I'm a bit reticent, given the SOHO's problems. Do you have one working on MAC-verify DHCP ADSL?
Also, does the Nexland have a sharing menu for direction to specific WAN by IP and PORT? I see I don't have a copy of the manual as I had thought to look that up.
Dual WAN router affectionados may be interested in a article in NetworkWorldFusion at:
»www.nwfusion.com/reviews/2004/09···l?page=1
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AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium
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Dartmouth, NS
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1 edit | That article had some serious errors in it regarding the Z70, thus do not know how accurate it is overall, other owners would have to attest to that.
Here is a review of the review thread LOL
»NetworkWorldFusion Review of Z70 |
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said by Kirby Smith:
Freezone:
Why should I expect the Nexland Pro 800 Turbo to keep working under conditions where the Nexland ISB SOHO would break?
The nexland is old and I would not rec it to any one at that price, but my exp with the hawking is that it makes for a poor paper weight.
I have had the nexland working for a few years, but so far my best exp has been with the xincom 502. It has been rock solid with some really powerful features. You can tell that these guys are serious about making dual wan routers.
They also make high end routers that lends exp to the lower end soho stuff. My exp is limited to three routers, but I have combed through many manuals and you can tell by the features offered in the firmware who has a clue or not.
Features like ip and interface routing
Smtp binding (Xincom goes further and lets you bind any protocols)
multidmz
ddns
multiple load balancing options
The first hawking firmware was so bad that they did a complete overhaul and then it still did not offer many needed features. The nexland is the standard that all should be judged by. The hawking was such a downgrade that I was completely turned off. Perhaps now they have some worth while firmware, but I remember the nexland learning curve and took 2 years for Nexland to get it right. Users on the nexland forum had to help them understand their own product and after making us beta and getting a stable firmware they sold to symantec. The hawking made me feel like I was starting over from scratch with an earlier nexland build. I felt they had no excuse for shotty firmware when nexland had been on the market so long at least nexland was breaking into new territory.
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I read the review you linked to and the reviewer noted many of the same things i did with the hawking. But two that really stood out for me were.
"Load balancing can be turned on, but the only control option is a percentage based on data transfer sessions. "
"The bad news: There is no way to route SMTP traffic to one WAN link. " |
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'"The bad news: There is no way to route SMTP traffic to one WAN link. "'
If this is not possible on the latest Hawking router, they took a step backwards. On the FR24, one can establish a mode of sharing where traffic can be routed by IP and port. Unfortunately, in that mode there is no percentage sharing or threshold sharing. What is wanted is both load balancing and tailored connections, e.g., SMTP.
As for the Xincom 502: I looked at their user manual yesterday. For a router that lists for $300., one would expect a manual larger than 47 pages. The Zexel Z70 has a 600 page manual, so based on cost Xincom should provide about 200 pages. More seriously, Xincom should eliminate ambiguity by better explaining some menus, showing all subfunction menus with examples, and cleaning up broken English in the latter portion of the text.
Zexel seems to have taken the position that this is complicated stuff, so we'll try to explain it as well as we can, while Xincom seems to have taken the position that this is complicated stuff, so it is best left to a networking guru who can devine what we intended by our menus.
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| I have no idea if the Zexet is better or not, I just know the xincom is good. Also the help menus built into the interface are not that bad. I preffer having docs in the firmware rather than a sep book, but your observation is very valid.
Ip based port based interface routing is useless if you want to run a sever and route all outgoing mail traffic to one interface. Again the xincom 502 goes a step further and allows protocol binding with any ports.
Manuals are for NOOBZ |
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AnavSarcastic Llama? Naw, Just AcerbicPremium
join:2001-07-16
Dartmouth, NS
kudos:3 | This thread makes me feel all warm and fuzzy 
»(Xincom 502) Load Balancing, Load Share @ 0%????? |
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| What is funny is that many of the firmware coders do not have a solid understanding of what is and is not possible.
These routers are very complex and I doubt there is one out that is with out some flaw or drawback. I am only in the possition to bad mount the hawking. The 502 is much better. |
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