How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC in Team Starfire

How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC in Team Starfire http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r10705256 en Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:29:43 EDT Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:29:43 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14992164 jimeez : I finally made the switch, but I am getting the following error message in the message tab:

12/10/2005 5:25:08 PM||Couldn't connect to hostname [setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu]
12/10/2005 5:25:09 PM|http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/|Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed with a return value of -106
12/10/2005 5:25:09 PM|http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/|No schedulers responded
12/10/2005 5:25:09 PM|http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/|Couldn't connect to URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/.Please check URL.

EDIT: Looks like the post above mine explains things. Sorry.

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said by xmas111

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I've heard in the past if your using Outlook as you email client check your junk folder and see if it ended up there.

I don't have such a folder. The strange thing is that I received the e-mail telling me that SETI Classic will be closed down.
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said by 72276539

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I can't even convert my account.

Nor I! I logged in using the e-mail account following the instructions. All I get is that the account key was sent. Never got it and nothing is blocked.
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said by Sureshot

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Doh! Someone woke up on the wrong side of the galaxy I see:)

Hehe, yes. I will look into it again. We cant let these little aliens run around unnoticed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13938137 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:55:00 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13937713 Sureshot : Doh! Someone woke up on the wrong side of the galaxy I see:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13937713 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:45:08 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13937082 murdok610 : Too much work, I dont have time for this type of crap. I did have 3 machines running it, but I'm just not into the damn BS. BOING me outta there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13937082 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:59:29 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13750732 pike : BOINC automatically caches WUs based on settings you provide when you sign up.

BOINC and Classic process WUs differently so there really is no definitive answer on which client is faster. Credit is also awarded differently. Check out our »SETI@Home FAQ

-Mike
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Also, I can't seem to find an answer to this question,

is the new client faster than the old one?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13750578 Sun, 26 Jun 2005 15:10:22 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12481531 klambert : Well, since for some reason I have been having to manually send my results in for each computer (Classic results), I've decided to transition to BOINC. Too bad I no longer have access to my ooooold e-mail account . . .]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12481531 Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:56:06 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12284684 Jammy : Where's the new seti server for BOINC?

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12284684 Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:17:45 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12266520 Jammy : All of my boxes are ready for the "official" changeover.

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12266520 Sat, 01 Jan 2005 13:27:30 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12266403 anon : Nice topic.

With classic closing down shortly, I am wondering what is likely to happen. I am sure there will be lots of folk who are only interested in SETI. Will there be many that will take the opportunity to try out different projects like climateprediction.net as well or instead of SETI.

Berkeley recommends running more than one project so that if one project is not handing out work for any reason....

Hope I don't get flamed too much for this, I am only wondering what is likely to happen and if you want to stick to SETI that is fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12266403 Sat, 01 Jan 2005 13:09:29 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12147713 Defiance82 : Finnaly got around to reinstalling. I'm back in the game :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12147713 Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:23:51 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12064111 72245156 : Pretty much on the honour system for the globe. Go here and add some SETI@Home info to your profile and the globe will show up in a day or 2. Welcome to the team. :)
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I have created a NEW BOINC account ,as my old email is not working any longer , I have joined the BroadbandReports.com Team Starfire , however , when I try to join the team on this board , it takes me to the original seti@home page to varify my account ( asks for user name and password ) but the "NEW" account doesnt have a password , and it said no user found .

So I think this board and this site think I am NOT a member , I dunno yet as it said it will take a day to get the spinning icon .
My question is , will this site recognise me as a member ,since there is no way to varify that I am one ?

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12063942 Wed, 08 Dec 2004 18:44:07 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11999341 tidal :
said by Liontaur :

Go here, then click on "View or edit general preferences", then click on "Edit preferences", then change the "Connect to network about every" field to however many days worth of WUs you want to keep on your local rig.

thank you.... that did it]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11999341 Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:46:46 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11999288 Liontaur :
said by tidal :

I missed this setting and can't find it on the website to change. Anyone help me out.

Go here, then click on "View or edit general preferences", then click on "Edit preferences", then change the "Connect to network about every" field to however many days worth of WUs you want to keep on your local rig.
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said by pike I recommend leaving all the
defaults, except for "Keep enough work on disk to last between x and x days". I set my max to 4 days. Don't bother setting it beyond 14 days -- SETI BOINC work units expire after 14 days and will not be processed.

I missed this setting and can't find it on the website to change. Anyone help me out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11999263 Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:33:37 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11788723 panda :
said by Liontaur :

Where you getting the link from?

Edit: nevermind, I found it and fixed it. Try it now.

Works great!

Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11788723 Fri, 05 Nov 2004 23:15:51 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11780304 Liontaur : Where you getting the link from?

Edit: nevermind, I found it and fixed it. Try it now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11780304 Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:55:37 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11779370 panda : I can't join Team Starfire!

I had to create a new account, and whenever I click the link to join Team Starfire, I get a 404 error page...

:-(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11779370 Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:50:21 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11656637 ditch5 : Mmmm. Plenty of answers already to the question I thought hadn't been answered. :hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11656637 Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:43:32 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11656633 ditch5 : Open Boinc, click "Settings" and "Attach to project". The answer is there. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11656633 Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:41:24 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11617919 Lokk : Thanks, enjoying the new client :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11617919 Mon, 18 Oct 2004 08:28:53 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11473469 Viper007Bond : [nvm - shoulda read the FAQ]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11473469 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 03:31:48 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11464296 72245156 : You can keep running them as they are now until they stop accepting classic SETI results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11464296 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:30:13 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11460297 Defiance82 : Do I need to upgrade my systems for thew team or do I keep useing the seti client?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11460297 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:56:01 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11303555 cow116 : nvm found a new one
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11303555 Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:40:54 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11257976 jimeez : Thank you very much.....but I think their servers (?) might be down. I cannot connect. pike 's link to join team Starfire isn't working either.

Edit: I guess this is the reason why. I should have read a little beofre asking. Sorry folks.

quote:
September 5, 2004
Because of the holiday weekend and family commitments we are a bit short handed and short on time. So the uldl move is taking us longer than expected.

September 3, 2004
The SnapApp folks were here for most of the afternoon. They replaced the processors with ones that are faster and have larger caches. More importantly, we talked about how to stabilize the system. The plan is to simplify both the HW and service mix as much as possible in the hopes of removing the variable that is causing the hangs (and of course they will be going for the root cause at their lab). We altered the startup so that a bare minimal set of services are running. And we are going to only use the 18000 head unit for now, keeping no data on the sd30 expansion. This means moving some data around. We first have to move the upload/download data to a temporary volume on the sd30, then reconfigure the space on the 18000 head, then move the uldl to the head. The move to the temp volume is happening now. Tomorrow morning we will do the reconfiguration and start final move. With luck we will have the project up by EOD tomorrow.

September 3, 2004
Some technical folks from Snap Appliance are on their way to SSL to provide on site support. They will likely swap out the CPUs.

September 2, 2004
The Snap App hung again. We will be down for the night.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11257976 Mon, 06 Sep 2004 08:20:38 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11257567 Liontaur : Here ya go.
boinc_4.05_w···lx86.zip 1,589,618 bytes
(boinc_4.05_windows_intelx86.exe)
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11257567 Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:55:36 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11252271 jimeez : I am also unable to download the client. The file appears to be missing. Anyone have v. 4.05 for Windows? Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11252271 Sun, 05 Sep 2004 13:03:31 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11248113 l0tu53at3r : I'm trying to get this Bionic thing to work...I'm not sure if its working the way its supposed to.

How do I know if I'm on the team, I couldn't tell if it put me on the team for Bionic or not. Also, is the Bionic client actually doing anything? All I ever see it do is "deferring communication with project for [insert time]"??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11248113 Sat, 04 Sep 2004 20:55:24 EDT Re: Bionic http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11068822 anon : I'm new to Seti@home, been wanting to do it, finally got it, and got a q, what is better about bionic than classic seti@home]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,11068822 Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:27:49 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10979819 King75 : I transfered my account to BOINC but it doesn't have all of my WUs. Also I there are no work units atm for me to download. This is weird, I have this new software to use my spare CPU time and now it has nothing to do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10979819 Fri, 06 Aug 2004 14:02:17 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10958103 Liontaur : Ok, here's the most recent BOINC installer for windows, version 3.20
boinc_3.20_w···lx86.zip 1,578,068 bytes
(boinc_3.20_windows_intelx86.exe)
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10958103 Wed, 04 Aug 2004 04:20:18 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10954020 King75 : I converted my Account OK but I can't download BOINC the file just isn't there. Does anyone have an external download site I could use?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10954020 Tue, 03 Aug 2004 17:42:38 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10928702 Jammy :
said by 72276539 :
I can't even convert my account.

Neither could I.

Jammy :(
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10928702 Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:35:44 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10920289 72276539 : I can't even convert my account.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10920289 Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:01:36 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10820965 pike :
said by acer33 :
Now I get this--
SETI@home - 2004-07-19 17:18:55 - Message from server: No work available.
Well, at least you know the problem is not on your end anymore.. :) Typically Berkeley.

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I cut and paste it from their email to me.

Now I get this--
SETI@home - 2004-07-19 17:18:55 - Message from server: No work available.

Thanks- everyone

acer]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10820026 Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:23:57 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10819857 xmas111 :
said by acer33 :
I can't start project, please help :huh:

acer

See if this helps.

»Can't attach to Boinc]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10819857 Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:03:06 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10819847 xmas111 : See if this helps.

»Can't attach to Boinc]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10819847 Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:02:16 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10818621 Splat :
said by acer33 :
I can't start project, please help :huh:

This is probably a stupid question, but do you have a space between "edu" and the / ?? They look awfully far apart.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10818621 Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:00:18 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10817961 acer33 : I can't start project, please help :huh:

acer
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10817961 Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:48:45 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10811180 bronc0fan : Thanks! :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10811180 Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:50:04 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10810919 pike : Hi Guys..

The Hermit: »SETI@Home FAQ »How do I join Team Starfire?

Fat Tire Man: 1. simply delete them - don't forget to check your Startup folder for shortcuts there as well. 2. Either click on your "Projects" tab in BOINC or see »SETI@Home FAQ »Where can I see my personal stats?

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said by bronc0fan :
I have my BOINC running successfully now after installing it last night, but I have two questions:

1. How do I get rid of the SETIspy and SETIdriver, now that they're not needed? I had first installed these using the BBR Cruncher setup? Do I go to my control panel (I have Windows XP) and remove everything related to BBR Cruncher?

2. How can I see my account statistics now? The first post from Pike shows his.

1) They do not install anything in the Registry - just delete them from your hard drive.
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1. How do I get rid of the SETIspy and SETIdriver, now that they're not needed? I had first installed these using the BBR Cruncher setup? Do I go to my control panel (I have Windows XP) and remove everything related to BBR Cruncher?

2. How can I see my account statistics now? The first post from Pike shows his.
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Kinda like having my neme in the # two spot.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10808826 Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:06:03 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784583 xrobertcmx : The team sign up is down! Noooo.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784583 Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:58:38 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784525 Jammy :
said by 72245156 :
IC. But can that be done. I don't know enough about it. :(

Neither do I . . .maybe after things get more settled with the BOINC stuff the two accounts can be merged, like we used to be able to get the Seti I accounts merged . . .

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784525 Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:51:18 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784498 72245156 : IC. But can that be done. I don't know enough about it. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784498 Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:48:03 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784478 Jammy :
said by 72245156 :
OK, so I need to find and get rid of your unused BOINC account then and hopefully that will fix things.

What needs to be done is the two accounts have to be merged for I do not want to lose the BOINC credit that I have accumulated so far.

I am #76 of Team Starfire's "active" BOINC users:
»macg.no-ip.info:5520/boinc/team.···ion=DESC

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784478 Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:46:39 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784457 Jammy :
said by 72245156 :
OK, so I need to find and get rid of your unused BOINC account then and hopefully that will fix things.

Oh, but that BOINC account is being used Kinguni! That is how I am BOINC-ing, lol.

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784457 Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:44:04 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784211 72245156 : OK, so I need to find and get rid of your unused BOINC account then and hopefully that will fix things.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784211 Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:18:08 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784176 Jammy :

said by 72245156 :
OK, let me get this straight. Rather that using the carry-over account from SETI, you made a new one? That would mean that you exist twice on the team?

Kinguni, I could not use that account! I tried to change over as the one page said, and this was "before" I ever saw the team page!

My old email addy was not accepted and neither were the next four email addies so I could not activate my old account.

This is what I tried (from this page, »setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_par···te.php):
quote:
If you participated in the original 'SETI@home Classic' project:
We've transferred your account, including profile and team information.
You must now activate the account.

It never worked for me so I opened up a new BOINC account. I did not know that the team's accounts had already been transferred over to BOINC!

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10784176 Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:13:57 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10783756 72245156 : OK, let me get this straight. Rather that using the carry-over account from SETI, you made a new one? That would mean that you exist twice on the team?
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said by John Keck :
If you have 2 accounts in BOINC you may be looking at the one you are not using instead of the active one under the team.

I do not have two BOINC accounts, just the same one that I had to make when I could not convert my old Seti I account over to BOINC.

Jammy

BTW >>> Both my new BOINC account and the old Seti I account say BroadbandReports.com Team Starfire.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10782073 Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:20:50 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10781055 John Keck :
said by Jammy :

said by Rattledagger :
The important is, if you're crunching correctly, you will get your credits, but partially due to the anti-cheating-measures added it can take a couple of weeks.

The IMPORTANT thing is: that even though it shows on "my" stats that I am a member of Team Starfire, the "teams" stats show no BOINC credit for me!

So I do not know whether or not "my" team is even getting credit for my completed WUs even though my "personal" stats say that I am a member of this team.

Do you understand me now?

Jammy

BTW >>> I do not cheat!

You can check by looking in the client_state.xml file there should be a team tag under the project tag. If the team tag is missing or doesn't show BBR there is a problem. Also on the web page there should be a link to the team on the same page that shows your personal stats. If you have 2 accounts in BOINC you may be looking at the one you are not using instead of the active one under the team.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10781055 Thu, 15 Jul 2004 06:10:08 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10776853 Rattledagger : BOINC took a snap-shot 14. May of the seti@home-databases. Any changes in "classic" in team-membership, new user and such will not be ported over.
It's also unsure if the classic wu-score shown in BOINC will be updated...
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I'm up and running now. What's the deal with the stats though? It shows less than 1/3 of my classic units.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10776473 Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:12:24 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10769710 yendiswpg :
said by Splat :

Well I shut down my classic to move to BOINC, so now my computer is sitting idle... The download link isn't working, so I haven't been able to d/l the client yet.

You can always download BOINC from the other club project Predictor@home »predictor.scripps.edu/ and start with a cache of their wus for now.
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Well I shut down my classic to move to BOINC, so now my computer is sitting idle... The download link isn't working, so I haven't been able to d/l the client yet.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10769527 Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:33:58 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10756414 Rattledagger : If the account you're crunching under was a member of BBR then you got assigned the work, the team gets it's credit at the same time you get your credit. But the team-stats isn't generated so often so will always lag behind.

As for cheating, I was just pointing to one of the reasons it will take longer getting credit in BOINC than in "classic", and wasn't aimed on anyone.
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said by Rattledagger :
The important is, if you're crunching correctly, you will get your credits, but partially due to the anti-cheating-measures added it can take a couple of weeks.

The IMPORTANT thing is: that even though it shows on "my" stats that I am a member of Team Starfire, the "teams" stats show no BOINC credit for me!

So I do not know whether or not "my" team is even getting credit for my completed WUs even though my "personal" stats say that I am a member of this team.

Do you understand me now?

Jammy

BTW >>> I do not cheat!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10756272 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:18:41 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10756195 Rattledagger : AFAIK the stats is the newest supplied by Berkeley, and AFAIK it's also the only stats-site currently up. More sites will soon follow, but none can have newer stats than supplied by Berkeley.

Seti@home has never had real-time-stats, except your personal stats. Then again, no other project I've run has real-time stats either, so seti-BOINC isn't worse than others is.

The BOINC-servers is still being worked on, optimizing performance and fixing bugs, so it taking some longer time getting stats isn't unexpected. The important is, if you're crunching correctly, you will get your credits, but partially due to the anti-cheating-measures added it can take a couple of weeks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10756195 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:10:28 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10755501 Jammy :
said by Rattledagger :

For external stats, look at
»macg.no-ip.info:5520/boinc/teams.php

Edit - you've made a new account you're crunching in and getting credit to. But for both you're showing up as a member of BBR so the stats should show up here also. ;)

I have searched but the stats for the team seem to stop at around member #1020. There is also no team member search function that would show if I showed up twice on the list. And it has been almost 24 hours since I joined the team and I still do not show up on the team list as doing any WUs.

I will give this thing another 12 hours and see what happens, and if I still do not show up anywhere I am going back to my Seventeen or Bust where I can see my totals and compare them with other team members.

Yeh, I like stats!

Jammy

BTW >>> that link's contents are out-of-date!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10755501 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:52:26 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10753991 Jammy :
said by Catman :

There is a Boinc spy out. I haven't looked at it, but Ive been on the website.

»www3.telus.net/BoincSpy/

Hey there catman! I downloaded that spy thingie on the XP 3000 butd I also had to download and install Microsoft.NET 1.1.0 for the spy thingie to work!

ughh . . .the spy thingie is OK but it (as everything else associated with BOINC) does not accurately reflect ones team totals in "Real Time" (or anything nearly current, lol).

Nothing is simple any longer with BOINC!

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10753991 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:57:11 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10753543 Jammy :
said by Rattledagger :

Also, unsure how often the external stats is made, if it's once or twice a day, but you will show up on the team-stats in under 24 hours atleast.

Are you "sure" that I will show up in the team stats within 24 hours? And the only reason that I had to make a new account is because I could not transfer my account over myself, my old email address was NOT accepted, so I had no choice but to make a new account.

All of my old work was lost, and it seems that I am having to do too MUCH work already just to get BOINC to running correctly.

My total credit has went way up:

quote:

Total credit 80.39
Recent average credit 8.92

Yet my Seti BOINC stats sig does not reflect them. This is the total from two boxes.

Ya know . . .I am supposed to be working on my thesis, not having to constantly post because my BOINC is not working! This is what I meant by a project that does NOT need human intervention to run.

I like to be able to do a quick lookup to see my current standings, and not have to constantly move back and forth between pages to find myself.

I like things to be simple.

Jammy

p.s. also my entry on the team page does not reflect my "actual" amount of returned WUs:

User: Jamilla Hall
Country: United States
Registered: 5/31/1999
Results returned: 6758
Total CPU time: 2.88 yrs

vs the team page's entry:

SETI@home member since 29 May 1999 15:00:33 UTC
Country United States
Total credit 0.00
Recent average credit 0.00
SETI@home classic workunits 6,438
SETI@home classic CPU time 24,325 hours ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10753543 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:54:02 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10753021 Rattledagger : Finding someone on the BOINC-stats-pages is difficult at best.
But these pages is cached for 12 hours, so of course it's doubtful you're showing up yet. ;)

Also, unsure how often the external stats is made, if it's once or twice a day, but you will show up on the team-stats in under 24 hours atleast.

For external stats, look at
»macg.no-ip.info:5520/boinc/teams.php

Edit - you've made a new account you're crunching in and getting credit to. But for both you're showing up as a member of BBR so the stats should show up here also. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10753021 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:38:17 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10752875 Jammy :
Rattledagger please see my post right above yours! I have accumulated some BOINC points but they do not show up on the team page only at the BOINC site!

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10752875 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:20:35 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10752829 Rattledagger : Well, since v3.03 was a debug-build it was using roughly 100% longer time to crunch...
Remember, the fact the current seti-version in BOINC is v3.08 is a complete coinsidence and has nothing to do with the "classic" version.

As for getting credit, only then you has returned a result, connected with the scheduling-server and actually saying you've returned the result & 2 others has successfully returned the result will the validation-process be run and you will get credit if all 3 results passes validation.

So the "finished upload of 04ja04aa...." is just step 1 in your 2-step-process of returning the result. ;)

In "classic", over 43% is returned by the slow windows-gui, so very likely the BOINC-version actually crunches more results total.
Also, "classic" has now 7.01 results/wu, so for Berkeley the BOINC-version is more than 100% more effective. :)

edit - Never used either seti-spy or boinc-spy, but the developer of boinc-spy choosing to use NET has nothing to do with BOINC.

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But none of my BOINC creidt is showing up on the team page. I do have an account and it says that I am a member of Team Starfire:

So if I am not a member of this team where are my stats going?

Jammy

BOINC totals (so far)

Totals according to team page
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10752773 Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:05:30 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10750053 Jammy :
said by CylonRed :
So it is ruined because they use a slower client? I thought it was about finding ET not on how fast your PC can turn WU's around?

Yeh, OK . . .I am a stats whore alright? This project will never find ET . . .face it!

Seti I was the most easy DC project around to run. Now this new one moves in . . .I was told that I would have to install microsoft .NET to even use the new BOINC spy.

It was next to impossible to even join up to this team, I could not get my units to transfer over, and now I see that my username and my finished WU's points "were" moved over after I had already rejoined and had been already been crunching away on my first BOINC wu .

Call me a spoil sport if you wish, but after over 5 years running various DC projects with out caring about overclocking my poor computers I must end this craziness.

~~The only one to repair my computers is me and I do not feel indebted to any one project enough to have to spend "my" time setting up eac hproject and coddling it while it runs.~~

Ah for get it! I do not have the time to fool around setting up a new project on my boxes, nor do I want to run them 24/7 any longer, especially I do not like running my computers when the outside temperature is over 79 degrees.

Seti I was nice . . .later guys.

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10750053 Sun, 11 Jul 2004 22:28:32 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10749854 CylonRed : So it is ruined because they use a slower client? I thought it was about finding ET not on how fast your PC can turn WU's around?
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Ok pike . . .I was able to join the team long before my first WU finished, yet on that screen thingie only my name shows up and no team name.

Also I have not received credit for my first completed WU yet and according to Messages, the WU was uploaded almost two hours ago:

quote:
SETI@home - 2004-07-11 16:41:55 - Finished upload of 04ja04aa.7402.5330.173580.182_3_0

Another thing, it seems that BOINC is using the 3.08 version which is a lot slower than the 3.03 version . . .what gives with this project? Seti is ruined now.

Jammy

Only my name shows up!
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10749618 Sun, 11 Jul 2004 21:37:32 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10749080 sargeeld : Jammy, BOINC will not try to connect to the server until the low water mark is reached. When you setup your preferences it asks how many days work to get. The default is .1 to 7. I changed mine to 5 to 7 and when I get down to 5 days worth left it connects, sends the finished ones and downloads some more. The only way to send them sooner is to do a manual update.
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Also, I have completed one WU with BOINC and it is just sitting there and won't get returned. I am also 2/3rds completed on a second WU.

I find BOINC veey user unfriendly.

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10749046 Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:26:40 EDT Re: I can't register for the team with BOINC! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10747983 pike : If you weren't able to convert you account and had to create a new one for BOINC, use this link to join Team Starfire.

-Mike
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OK, I can't join the team with BOINC! I registered and am starting a WU but without a team.

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10747359 Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:37:29 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10719407 JRBlood :
said by pleekmo :

said by JRBlood :
Don't forget that you can use the stop_after_send.txt trick with your old SETI clients.
I don't think this will work for me. If I read this correctly, then this will make the client stop after sending the current WU and ignore the remaining WUs that I have cached locally.
That's correct. It will stop your client from pulling from the cache. However, since you're using SETIDriver, and you set it to 0, then you don't need this text file since your client will no longer process as it can't get a WU from the SD's cache.

Now if you had several clients pulling from one queue like from SETIQueue, and you want to convert one over to BOINC for testing, then this tip will help as your other classic clients will continue to drain the queue.

quote:
Now after the cache runs out can I immediately switch over to BOINC on that machine or do I have to let all the caches on all my machines run out before switching to BOINC?
Yes, you should be able to switch over, as long as your other clients don't rely on that same queue (Not really sure if that's even possible with SETIDriver since I haven't run it in a couple of years).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10719407 Thu, 08 Jul 2004 10:08:37 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10718843 Rattledagger : You can run BOINC & classic on different machines at the same time.

Also, to make sure you don't get any down-time, you can start running BOINC then you've still got a couple classic wu cached, just don't set the preferences in BOINC to high, due to the deadline. ;)

Since seti for BOINC runs at priority 2 and classic 4, the classic will get all cpu-time, but BOINC will immediately kick in then empty.
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said by JRBlood :
Don't forget that you can use the stop_after_send.txt trick with your old SETI clients.
I don't think this will work for me. If I read this correctly, then this will make the client stop after sending the current WU and ignore the remaining WUs that I have cached locally.

What I want to do is to continue processing SETI Classic until my current cache runs out. I think the easiest way to do this would be to change my SETI Driver "Desired Cache Size" to zero and let it continue running.

Now after the cache runs out can I immediately switch over to BOINC on that machine or do I have to let all the caches on all my machines run out before switching to BOINC?
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For those that don't know about this trick, all you have to do is create a null text file called stop_after_send.txt in the same directory (folder) that your client is in. It doesn't have to contain anything, just as long as the file name exists (Right-click, New, Text Document works the best for me).

Once your old client uploads the results of the current WU, it will upload the results and then stop. This way you don't "waste" a downloaded WU and you can switch over to the BOINC client. :)

Now if you need to switch back to the old client, just delete the stop_after_send.txt file and fire up your old client.
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said by pleekmo :
Now I first have to get rid of all the old classic WUs. Some of my machines have over a half-year worth of WUs stashed locally.

Can I convert piecemeal? That is, as my faster machines go through their remaining WUs, shut down Classic SETI on them and then install BOINC?

I didn't see an answer to this so I'll take it. There is no date set for the end of seti I yet so you can move a piece at a time. The BOINC version runs at a slightly lower priority so when your computers start to get low you can put BOINC on them and have no interruption in processing.

When setting up multiple computers the easiest way is to copy the account....xml file from a working computer to the new one. That way you don't have to worry about typos.

BTW you know that seti I has a one month deadline, right? Your tally goes up after that but the work has no value.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10713794 Wed, 07 Jul 2004 17:50:28 EDT Re: According to BOINC my account does not exist! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10712923 pike : Jammy - sorry to hear about your troubles. Just a hunch, but I'm wondering if perhaps this has something to do with your email address beginning with a number instead of a letter. Did you try posting at the SETI BOINC help forums? I'll send you a link when their page comes back up.

-Mike
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As for the account conversion part - I actually originally had it like worded as you suggest, with ul and li html tags to boot. For some reason I couldn't get it to read right and just ended up doing it that way it is. Now I regret changing it :p

Where the heck did I get 7 days from? Sorry guys.

-Mike
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Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10711400 Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:37:10 EDT According to BOINC my account does not exist! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10711397 Jammy :
Pike:

Against my better judgment, I went to the link you listed for account conversion, and entered the email address that my Seti account is under,and once again it said that there was no such email address in their database. This is the 7th time I have tried:

Account Not Found

No account with the email address 3jamm3@calantilles.com was found. You may wish to create a new account.

If these folks cannot even find an account that is over 5 years old I do not need to continue Seti I when it ends!

Jammy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10711397 Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:36:24 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10708970 Rattledagger : Looking good, but a couple of points. ;)

2; "account converstion page" should maybe come 1st? Also, should be more outlined to make sure they don't clicks the wrong link. ;)
Also since many will complain about this, the "classic"-stats is from 14. May and may not be changed.

5; currently 14 days deadline, not 7. ;) Also, since don't knows what defaults they're using now, "do work while computer is in use?" & make sure HT-people is setting "On multiprocessors, use at most 2 processors". Of course it's maybe already this way...

8; If you needs to use proxy-settings, you must configure these before attacking, for otherwise you will attack, don't get a connection and be kicked out again.

10; Since very many will be confused of this, "ready to report" does not mean the result is returned and will show up on the web-page (then re-enabled) or validated.

Someone will probably write these things better than me. ;)
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said by Liontaur :
Very nice post Mike, only thing I can think of is I thought there was a 14 day deadline on WUs, not 7?

My very thoughts exactly, where did you get 7 days?
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OH..btw.

There is a Boinc spy out. I haven't looked at it, but Ive been on the website.

»www3.telus.net/BoincSpy/

just thought I would mention that....maybe someone could look into it and see if its feasible to use.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10708719 Wed, 07 Jul 2004 05:02:04 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10708671 pleekmo : Now I first have to get rid of all the old classic WUs. Some of my machines have over a half-year worth of WUs stashed locally.

Can I convert piecemeal? That is, as my faster machines go through their remaining WUs, shut down Classic SETI on them and then install BOINC?
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10708233 Wed, 07 Jul 2004 02:00:15 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10707687 samburgers : Great post pike! That'll get them to switch easily! Thumbs up!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10707687 Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:31:22 EDT Re: How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10706465 Liontaur : Very nice post Mike, only thing I can think of is I thought there was a 14 day deadline on WUs, not 7?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10706465 Tue, 06 Jul 2004 22:08:46 EDT How to switch from SETI Classic to SETI BOINC http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10705256 pike : SETI via BOINC is now officially active and live. Due to numerous requests I am creating a simple step-by-step guide to help Team Starfire crunchers move over from SETI classic" to the new BOINC platform.

There are a couple items to be taken into considering before proceeding.
First, Berkeley has conveniently put into place a facility for converting your current (or "classic") SETI@Home account into a new BOINC account. In order to take advantage of this however you will need access to the email address your signed up with SETI@Home with!! If you do not have access to this email address, you will be required to establish a new account.
Please don't take this as a setback though; SETI BOINC uses a completely different system to compute work unit credits and therefore your current WU count won't add to your new SETI BOINC stats. Here is a screenshot of the info that does carry over:

For more information on how BOINC calculates credit, please see this faq
»SETI@Home FAQ »How does BOINC give credit for my work?

Also note the BOINC client is not just for SETI@Home. The BOINC client is capable of supporting many different distributed computing projects. Berkeley currently has two other projects in beta test (SETI2 and AstroPulse). There is also a Predictor@Home beta as well (for example).

The BOINC client is slightly more complex than the original SETI@Home client. However it is nothing to be intimidated by. In fact, many users will never even go into the settings and may find configuring this client even simpler than the original. One very nice feature of the BOINC client is that
the majority of the settings are saved server-side with the project sponsor (in this case Berkeley) and can be changed remotely from any web browser.
For those of use with multiple clients, this makes life much simpler.

FYI: The project home page is located at »setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/

And now, on with the show!

1. The first step obviously is going to be shutting down your old SETI
client. The old client and BOINC don't play well together. Your add-ons such
as SetiSpy and SETIDriver have become obsolete. Work unit caching is now a
feature of the client.

2. Ok, first things first. Berkeley prefers users establish a BOINC account
prior to downloading the client.
•If you already have a classic
SETI@Home account AND you have access to the email address associated
with it, you will use this
link. Enter your classic SETI@Home email address here. You will then
be forwarded to the account activation page and an email will be
sent.•If you are a new user OR you can no longer access the
email address associated with your classic SETI@Home account, you will use
this
link to create a new account. Enter your current email address here.
You will then be forwarded to the account confirmation page and an email
will be sent.
3. Upon receiving your email (should just take a few
seconds), copy and paste the account ID (long random string) into the
activation page and press enter. Save this email!

4. You will now be asked if this is the first BOINC project you've
participated in. Lets go ahead and click on "This is my first BOINC project"
and be whisked off to the settings page.

5. Yes, there are a LOT of settings. The nice thing is though this is the
only time you'll be bothered with them. I recommend leaving all the
defaults, except for "Keep enough work on disk to last between x and
x days". I set my max to 4 days. Don't bother setting it beyond 14
days -- SETI BOINC work units expire after 14 days and will not be
processed. Feel free to experiment with the settings if you wish, but I
would think about 95% of us will never change any of the other settings.
Just make sure "do work while computer is in use" is set to "yes". Also, for
those of you with hyperthreading enabled CPUs, double check the "On
multiprocessors, use at most X processors" is set to 2.

6. Finally! Now we get to download the client. After saving your settings,
you will automagically be forwarded to the download page.
Click on the corresponding client for your operating system. If your OS is
not listed, or you would like to compile the client yourself, you may download the source
here.

7. Now from here on out, I'm going to focus on the Windows client, because
that will be the most popular. The Windows download package comes with an
installer. After running the installer, you will see this screen:

Check the boxes as you desire and press "finish". Note that the BOINC client
uses open-GL to display graphics and therefore steals far less processer
time showing the pretty pictures. Of course you'll still see improved
efficiency by choosing to use no screen saver.

8. Now the BOINC client opens. This is the first screen new users see:

This is where you sign in, or "attach" to the project. Attaching to a
project tells the BOINC client who you are and what project you would like
to participate in, so that it may download the appropriate software and
properly credit work to your account.

Important note for
those that require the use of a proxy server: you must configure BOINC
to use the proxy server BEOFRE attempting to attach to a project. To do
this, close the "Attach to Project" window. Go to the "Settings" menu and
choose "Proxy Server...". Adjust the settings as needed and click "OK". Now
click on the "Settings" menu once again and click on "Attach to Project..."
to continue.

Remember that email you got with your account key in step 3? You'll need
that again. Copy and paste the "Project URL" (which is
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu, note this is different than the project
home page). Then copy and paste your unique "Account ID". This info should
also be displayed on the BOINC download page. Press OK.

9. You might notice the "Messages" tab beginning to flash. Whenever this tab
flashes, there is activity with the BOINC client. Let's click on the tab and
have a look:

Anytime BOINC uploads, downloads, begins a WU, finishes a WU or has some
type of problem, it will be reflected in this tab. You may also see a
message telling you BOINC is computing your CPU benchmarks. The client will
do this periodically to determine how much work to request and/or cache for
this particular machine.

From my screenshot, we can see BOINC contacted the SETI@Home servers,
requested my settings (preferences) and downloaded the newest SETI client*
and then... oops. My laptop wasn't plugged in so BOINC momentarily suspended
per my settings. After I plugged in, BOINC requested some work to crunch.
After getting the work, the client began to crunch. Next we'll click on the
"Work" tab.

10. The "Work" tab displays all work units cached on this machine and their
status. If you see one or more work units with a moving status bar, you're
up and running! Congrats!

As you can see, I have already crunched a few work units. The first few have
been completed ("Ready to report"). One is queued to be uploaded
("Uploading"). I'm currently 69% through another unit ("Running"), and there
are several more ready to go ("Ready to run").

If you'd like to see the pretty pictures SETI BOINC makes while crunching,
right click on the currently processing unit and choose "show graphics". The
visuals will pop in a new window which can be resized or maximized to full
screen.

Now you're up and crunching!!

If you need to install on multiple machines, all you need to do is repeat
steps 6 - 9 on subsequent machines and you're good to go.

AND NOW THE MOST IMPORTANT PART! :D Join Team Starfire! Those
of you who were able to convert you old account over, you need not worry -
your team status is carried over. However if you created a new account,
don't forget to join Starfire.

*Note: another nice feature of BOINC is that whenever a project's client is
updated, BOINC automagically downloads and installs the newest version.
However, the BOINC core client itself will never update itself.

For more detailed information on the BOINC client and how to use it, visit
the BOINC main page. Also
check the Team Starfire SETI FAQ for more
updates on using BOINC.

I hope you found this helpful and useful. All comments, suggestions and
critiques are most welcome.

-Mike

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