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jap
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Beta. It's still in Beta, no??

Not newsworthy if Gmail is still in beta. Finding things like this is what beta is for.


stateq2
control the code
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join:2003-03-27
Jackson, MS

said by jap:
Not newsworthy if Gmail is still in beta. Finding things like this is what beta is for.

gmail sux.


mdshort

join:2004-05-07
Marion, AR

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Right on jap, besides its not their job to give us free e-mail accounts.

"You can't truly taste an uncooked meal." Just a thought.
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sadowski
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said by stateq2:
gmail sux.

What's wrong with GMail? It's somewhat limited compared to say MSN's webmail (regular MSN product, I don't know about hotmail, etc.) but it's kind of a cool use of a web UI and dynamic HTML, I must admit.
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koitsu
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reply to jap
Try explaining that to the 2149847494372023498 people who are already using and relying on Gmail, treating it like a non-beta commercial service.

Now, onto the issue of security.

It doesn't matter if technologies/solutions (buzzword overload!) are in alpha, beta, or production release: security holes are security holes.

I think it's safe to say that most of the people who're using Gmail at this point have already inserted legitimate information into their accounts, which makes this a nice big fat haven for privacy violation. It doesn't matter if it's beta.

Strike #2 for Google (for #1, look into the Orkut lawsuit). This is what they get for only hiring "geek jocks".
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Making life hard for others since 1977.



Mikep7779
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Woodlawn, NY

its their fault for relying on it when its a beta.
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stateq2
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said by sadowski:
said by stateq2:
gmail sux.

What's wrong with GMail? It's somewhat limited compared to say MSN's webmail (regular MSN product, I don't know about hotmail, etc.) but it's kind of a cool use of a web UI and dynamic HTML, I must admit.

yeah...it's great, but I love going against the grain...considering the so many people have been blabbing about gmail (yes, I have an account)
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sadowski
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said by stateq2:
yeah...it's great, but I love going against the grain...considering the so many people have been blabbing about gmail (yes, I have an account)

:)
Cool.
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pflog
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said by koitsu:
I think it's safe to say that most of the people who're using Gmail at this point have already inserted legitimate information into their accounts, which makes this a nice big fat haven for privacy violation. It doesn't matter if it's beta.
If I'm understanding it correctly, existing users are not affected now. Unless of course someone was using the exploit at the time you signed up to get this info. But if they haven't already done so, and you're using your gmail account, they cannot get the info. It's only for new users.

I agree it should definitely be addressed, though, regardless of what level of release they are in.
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jap
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said by koitsu:with great wisdom & the calmness of true authority:
[..snip..] 2149847494372023498 people who are already using and relying on Gmail.

[..snip..] Now, onto the issue of security. It doesn't matter if technologies/solutions (buzzword overload!) are in alpha, beta, or production release: security holes are security holes.

[..snip..] which makes this a nice big fat haven for privacy violation.

[..snip..] This is what they get for only hiring "geek jocks".
I'm speechless. Your erudite summation of what .. err .. ails Google is so profoundly wholesome that there is simply nothing to add. In no way could your assessment be improved. Thank you for enlightening us. I appologize for my previous ignorance on the purpose of the beta phase and hereby hate Google & all technology providers who don't get everything perfect before telling us about their product.

Build a bunker, lock your doors, buy a gun: Google is coming!


C_
Kill The Socialists
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said by koitsu:
2149847494372023498 people who are already using and relying on Gmail, treating it like a non-beta commercial service.
the population of the world is less then 7,000,000,000 genius
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"This ain't Burger King. You can't have it your way."


jap
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said by C_:
the population of the world is less then 7,000,000,000...
You cite merely the human population. Koitsu lives in Mountain View & is no doubt privy to the little known fact that for every 1 human Gmail account holder there are 166,943 insects that have been invited into the pre-release testing phase - So let's be Fair & Balanced for koitsu.


jap
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said by stateq2:
...but I love going against the grain...
Why you cheap shot rabble-rouser!
Just wanted to say thanks for having Magnatunes in your posting signature. I've been waiting for the eventual emergence of just such a trend. I'm gonna copycat you on it.


Tiver

@64.243.x.x

reply to koitsu
Idiot, RTFA

"A remote user with a valid GMail invitation can determine information about another user attempting to register an account with the service, including the target user's first and last name and the target user's desired GMail account username."

At most they can get the first and last name and desired username of someone attempting to register. And they need a valid invitation themselves. It's not that huge of a violation, and if they've "have already inserted legitimate information into their accounts" then they don't have to worry about this bug in beta gmail as it doesn't apply to already created accounts.


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