 58483323Gurt me join:2003-06-23 Normal, IL | reply to jjbobnm
Re: [Cable] Who gets 100% Digital Channels on Cabl I'm the sure cable companies want to switch to all digital to free up bandwidth. But they aren't going to do it now because of all the analog customers. |
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 2 edits | still havent found exactly what I was looking for, Ive seen it and read it on this site and it had been in the paper as well. Of course it doesnt mean it wont get pushed back, but here in pdf form you can read the article on a plan to speed up the process of the change to companies involved with the changes.. from networks to manufacturers of set tops
»ftp.fcc.gov/commissioners/powell···tion.pdf
just to show u the plan of the proposed change 1/01/07
not sure if you noticed but the have been pulling channels off of analog and putting them onto digital channels..
its on the way out, the date I have posted has been moved back about 4 times in the last 3 yrs, it may change again and it may not |
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 imrfPremium join:2002-06-06 Utica, MI | That's fine, but did you read #3. It says that cable companies must provide up to 5 digital stations for free, that is it. Not all channels must be digital, just 5. |
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 | Imrf I am just trying to tell you what I know for a fact, I think I told you that I am in the cable industry, have been giving the article to read from my employer concerning this and its been in the paper. If you read this was a proposal to help speed up the process, like I said this is their plan to make it happen faster. All their other plans just came with a date and nothing being done about it.
Ill find the fcc article sooner or later..gimem a few, reading through a ton of them on fcc.gov |
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 imrfPremium join:2002-06-06 Utica, MI | I am in the cable industry too, there is NO mandate for ANY cable company to be all digital at any certain date, period. This topic has been beaten to death long before you became a member here. The only mandate is the the broadcasters to give the FCC back their analog spectrum, by making them go all digital. That has absolutely no effect on any cable company. Sales people at best Buy and Circuit City cite the same exact crap that you do, and state that they know this for a fact because they sell tvs. It doesn't mean squat, you and them do not understand what the FCC is talking about. |
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 2 edits | umm okay, im done..not arguing just stating the fact...
ive been a member for a while. on my old name daygoracer, but but I have no access to it after not using it for so long..
anyhow we will just wait til 2007 comes around..
not the exact document im looking for but supporting »www.twice.com/article/CA422995?d···aking+Ne |
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 | Sorry to burst your bubble, but imrf is completely right. |
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 | I wasn't referring to OTA or dropping analog signals on Cable. I mean that some cable companies are duplicating the analog signals in digital from ch-2 to 99 so they can match the satellite guys with 100 percent digital reception if you have a digital set-top box. The analog can still be maintained for a non-digital subscriber. |
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 Greg_ZPremium join:2001-08-08 Springfield, IL | reply to imrf I am voting for your wording also imrf. You can tell the difference in some channels, but there has never been cold hard facts as to the exact date for total digital. -- One man's customer loyalty is another man's miguided arrogance. |
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 Greg_ZPremium join:2001-08-08 Springfield, IL | reply to Dig Cable said by Dig Cable: I wasn't referring to OTA or dropping analog signals on Cable. I mean that some cable companies are duplicating the analog signals in digital from ch-2 to 99 so they can match the satellite guys with 100 percent digital reception if you have a digital set-top box. The analog can still be maintained for a non-digital subscriber.
Where are your proven facts?? Cable companies are not duplicating analog in digital to keep up with the Satellite companies. I have Digital Cable with Insight, but the only channels that are digital are the music channels, and the stuff coming out of computers at the headend for Insight, other than that I have over 100 channels of Analog.
Even with HDTV programming, it is not a total Digital conversion, due to the production costs to produce same. -- One man's customer loyalty is another man's miguided arrogance. |
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 imrfPremium join:2002-06-06 Utica, MI | I have heard that some of the Canadian cable companies are doing this, and the OP is in Canada. Maybe his cable company is doing exactly what he says, it wouldn't really surprise me. The Canadian cable companies(for the most part) push new technology out faster and do things that are less greedy than the American cable companies do.
But on a side note, most of all the sat channels are still analog, they are just digitized in D*, E*, or VOOMs NOC. The sat companies get the same exact feed that the cable companies get. |
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 Greg_ZPremium join:2001-08-08 Springfield, IL | said by imrf: I have heard that some of the Canadian cable companies are doing this, and the OP is in Canada. Maybe his cable company is doing exactly what he says, it wouldn't really surprise me. The Canadian cable companies(for the most part) push new technology out faster and do things that are less greedy than the American cable companies do.
But on a side note, most of all the sat channels are still analog, they are just digitized in D*, E*, or VOOMs NOC. The sat companies get the same exact feed that the cable companies get.
I can agree with you on that imrf. I have never seen such bad tv output until I saw it on Dish and DirectTV. Voom had the best video output (all on component). Cable shows noise, due to sateration from the amount of amplification and correction that has to happen going from head end to house, but for all in all, I will stick with cable, due to if anything happens, the cost is lower and you do not have a un-godly dish hanging off of your house. -- One man's customer loyalty is another man's miguided arrogance. |
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 RR ConductorHappy 40th AmtrakPremium join:2002-04-02 Redwood Valley, CA kudos:1 | "I will stick with cable, due to if anything happens, the cost is lower and you do not have a un-godly dish hanging off of your house."
Did you get that from a cable propaganda manual? lol |
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 imrfPremium join:2002-06-06 Utica, MI | said by RR Conductor: Did you get that from a cable propaganda manual? lol
I can't answer for him, but for me cable is a lot cheaper than satellite service for me. Even without the cable propaganda crap you always spew out. |
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 58483323Gurt me join:2003-06-23 Normal, IL | I don't want to start another debate but cable is only $3 more than satellite. In my eyes it's not worth the $3 a month more to switch. Having to deal with equipment, memorizing a whole new set of channels, and if I factor the $15 penalty for not having CATV service with my HSI cable comes out to be a better value. I'm also planning to purchase an HDTV in the near future and of course cable is better with HDTV(no up-front equipment costs and locals in HD).
And I don't have anything to do with Comcast, I'm just stating the facts in MY case. |
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 Greg_ZPremium join:2001-08-08 Springfield, IL | reply to RR Conductor said by RR Conductor: "I will stick with cable, due to if anything happens, the cost is lower and you do not have a un-godly dish hanging off of your house."
Did you get that from a cable propaganda manual? lol
Ha ha, no personal opinion, and the fact remains that if I chose to live in the country, then yes Satellite would be a choice, but due to living in a city serviced by a good cable infrastructure that has no problems, my choice remains as it is. -- One man's customer loyalty is another man's miguided arrogance. |
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 | reply to 58483323 The analog cable subscribers need to upgrade they are the ones who are going to keep Cable companies from going all digital, and also will keep digital subscribers from receiving more channels as well as more hdtv channels. Because analog signals use more bandwith than the digital ones. It costs more to run analog also. So channels that you don't have or want can't be added because of the analog signal. |
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 | reply to imrf They are talking about getting their analog channels back for emergency reasons. |
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 imrfPremium join:2002-06-06 Utica, MI | said by Geminimind: They are talking about getting their analog channels back for emergency reasons.
The FCC? No, they want the analog spectrum back so that they can re-sell that prime spectrum at a steep price so that they have more money.
said by Geminimind: The analog cable subscribers need to upgrade they are the ones who are going to keep Cable companies from going all digital, and also will keep digital subscribers from receiving more channels as well as more hdtv channels.
I'm not really sure where you get this from. There are millions of people on fixed incomes, they are not going to upgrade to digital service just because you or I want more HD channels or whatever. The cable companies will have to come up with a way to go pure digital without screwing things up for those people, i.e. the little box from Pace Micro that converts everything back to digital on the customer's side, that Cox is trying out in Cali. The only thing holding the cable companies back right now are their greedy executives and stockholders, it will cost a lot of money to go all digital and the executives don't want to loose all the profit for that year so that they can get a multi-million dollar bonus that they don't deserve in the first place. |
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