jniamehrPremium
join:2003-10-09
Roslyn, NY | reply to nasadude
Re: so? Look, theres a point in time we have to stop caring about HAMs and worry about the future of this country, we complain that Japan has fiber optics yadda yadda, but we seem to forget how large this country is, and spread out compared to japan... I rather see everyone have broadband over having ham radio... who gives a crap about ham radio... BPL is at least 20 times more important than ham shit radio... im so sick of hearing people bitch about powell, I think hes doing an excellent job, demanding that VOIP stay unregulated, and untaxed, this guy is smart, and I like him, he knows a little something that I like to call PRIORITY!!!!! |
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JoeBig
join:2002-10-28
Austin, TX | Perhaps, one needs to look at the spectrum of the emitted RF from BPL and decode the packets as they go down the powerline....sounds like they have a very large cybersecurity problem with this technology. |
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 TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | reply to jniamehr
said by jniamehr:
Look, theres a point in time we have to stop caring about HAMs and worry about the future of this country, ham radio... BPL is at least 20 times more important than ham shit radio... im so sick of hearing people bitch about powell, I think hes doing an excellent job, demanding that VOIP stay unregulated, and untaxed, this guy is smart, and I like him, he knows a little something that I like to call PRIORITY!!!!!
What pleases me as a Ham Radio operator is your pin headed
comment is in the minority now. I wasn't that way at first.
We education people here as to what the realities are with
this absolutly bogus technology. The Amateur Radio service
as been around for almost a hundred years. we have more collective knowledge of RF then anyone else.
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 halfbandPremium
join:2002-06-01
Huntsville, AL
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said by jniamehr:
Look, theres a point in time we have to stop caring about HAMs and worry about the future of this country
But this is not the technology of the future, it is technology of the past.
It will not be deployed in rural areas that don't have broadband because of cost.
It will interfere with communication far beyond the area it is deployed.
HAM radio bands are but a small part of what is affected, they are simply the ones who most easily recognize the problems and are most vocal about it.
BPL is a technology without a target market. In dense areas, it will have to much competition from higher data rate services like DSL. In low density areas it will cost much more than wireless for deployment. It just does not make good business sense.
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 n2jtx
join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
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said by jniamehr:
Look, theres a point in time we have to stop caring about HAMs and worry about the future of this country
Forgetting the HAM's for a moment, of which I am one, there is still going to be a problem with the other users of the RF spectrum. If they were to roll out BPL here where I am located (highly doubtful since DSL and Cable have the area well covered), then we could certainly kiss our countywide fire dispatch goodbye on 46MHz. I for one would rather have the certainty that the fire personnel have reliable radio communications than BPL. The idea that an EMT's pager does not go off because he happens to be near a power line is unconscionable. Of course the county could spend several million taxpayer dollars to roll out new UHF base transmitters, pagers, HT's and mobile radios to all of the apparatus so that the power company could then have their fun with this technology. Personally I think there are better things for them to use the money on at this time. |
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 ryanl88Premium
join:2003-01-03
Fairfield, CA | reply to Transmaster
quote:
The Amateur Radio service
as been around for almost a hundred years.
So has the use of fossil fuels to run the engines in the cars we drive. So why bother switching to alternative fuels--let's just keep polluting the earth and keep our economy stable for just a little bit longer? This is the kind of thinking that's preventing our country from advancing to the future.
I'm not saying "screw HAM and Amateur Radio"--but I'm saying that we need to find a way to make this work to keep us from getting stuck in the mud.
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Another no nothing troll who wants his porn faster.
His only priority is money and he doesn't care about you. Powell has no idea what he is talking about and if he keeps pushing this BPL crap, it will end up in court.
BPL is a dead technology that has been banned in Japan already. Plus, if you are too far out for DSL or cable then BPL is going to be the same story. |
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 japPremium
join:2003-08-10
038xx | reply to ryanl88
said by ryanl88:
I'm saying that we need to find a way to make this work to keep us from getting stuck in the mud.
Many people, including myself, feel BPL is part of the "mud" problem: too many overlapping providers that are leveraging an existing infrastructure that was NOT designed for bi-directional data. All the major providers are such in this country: TV, telephone and now high voltage electricity networks. The only truly good, stabile, cheap resi services are those via the few munis that built a dedicated data network & sell access to for-profit ISPs. The countries that have excellent resi service (eg: korea, sweden) did the same thing years ago - and they are the only ones that reach less pop'd areas.
RF interference aside, BPL is poised to be another layer of suburban cash grab: the political jibberish about it providing cheap rural coverage is just that: jibberish. Wireless is *so* much cheaper to deploy to most rural environments. The BPL proponents are those with a profit potential because they own the already-build infra, not because it shows a technical, cost-efficacy, or rural penetration potential. |
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