| | Who cares about Korea? If I hear one more person wonder why the US can't have higher speeds because Korea does, I'm going to scream (don't bother replying, it's just a figure of speech).
Who fricking cares what Japan and Korea can do? What's available to me?
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| Re: Who cares about Korea? said by TheMadSwede:
If I hear one more person wonder why the US can't have higher speeds because Korea does, I'm going to scream (don't bother replying, it's just a figure of speech).
Who fricking cares what Japan and Korea can do? What's available to me?
You fail to understand, what they have is a very good pointer to show YOU what SHOULD be available to you.
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 | | | Re: Who cares about Korea? Our country is way too large and rural to offer this. Maybe we should be able to see this in places like nyc and la where the population density and layout is more similar to the crammed Asian cities that have this, but if you live in a cornfield in the middle of Pennsylvania you know your at a disadvantage concerning a lot of things, including interner connectivity. Providers just can't afford to spend millions in infrastructure for four family farms in a 20 square mile stretch... | |
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| | | "You fail to understand, what they have is a very good pointer to show YOU what SHOULD be available to you."
No, it isn't. The cost/capability of broadband is very sensitive to population density.
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Beaverton, OR | Re: Who cares about Korea? Actually, it's not only very sensitive to population density but also to consumer demand and US laws that regulate (or choose not to regulate) ISPs.
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| | | I don't fail to understand anything re: this issue. Do you think the people in Japan getting 500 gazillobit connections live in rice paddies in the middle of nowhere? 40% of depopulated (read - rural) areas in Japan have no broadband connectivity.
The advantage Japan has is that its population density is almost 12 times that of the U.S. So it doesn't matter that so many areas don't have access to broadband because no one lives there. What can the U.S. learn from that? Live closer together so you can have broadband?
NTT has fiber drastically deeper into the network than anywhere in the U.S. 80% of locations in Japan are within reach of fiber (that doesn't mean FTTH, but rather to an exchange, I believe). And they've got over a million users that DO have FTTH.
Telecom doesn't follow a cookie cutter model. You can't take what another country's doing and CTRL-V it into your own domestic broadband policy.
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| Re: Who cares about Korea? said by TheMadSwede:
I don't fail to understand anything re: this issue. Do you think the people in Japan getting 500 gazillobit connections live in rice paddies in the middle of nowhere? 40% of depopulated (read - rural) areas in Japan have no broadband connectivity.
The advantage Japan has is that its population density is almost 12 times that of the U.S. So it doesn't matter that so many areas don't have access to broadband because no one lives there. What can the U.S. learn from that? Live closer together so you can have broadband?
NTT has fiber drastically deeper into the network than anywhere in the U.S. 80% of locations in Japan are within reach of fiber (that doesn't mean FTTH, but rather to an exchange, I believe). And they've got over a million users that DO have FTTH.
Telecom doesn't follow a cookie cutter model. You can't take what another country's doing and CTRL-V it into your own domestic broadband policy.
Technologies get cheaper as they are more widely used. If you have worked in the tech sector you would know this a loop of fiber may cost $500 now but in 3 months when the company can keep pumping out those loops the prices continually drop.
Your ignorant to the fact you do not understand this. I have worked in 3 different places and Since I am familiar with specific routers I always put in a nudge for the routers as it makes it easier for me to use the system to their full capabilities. I have seen routers come down in price from $35,000 2 years ago to less then $15,000 now.
Technology gets cheaper as it is more widely adopted. Whether you choose to listen or not. Sooner or later we will need fiber to every home in this country. Better to get the costs down now and make it cheaper to deploy to those rural areas then to sit on our ass and get left behind in the dust.
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| | | | | Re: Who cares about Korea? "Technologies get cheaper as they are more widely used. If you have worked in the tech sector you would know this a loop of fiber may cost $500 now but in 3 months when the company can keep pumping out those loops the prices continually drop."
Sorry, but most of the cost of fiber deployment today is labor and it's not going down. | |
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| Re: Who cares about Korea? said by Agent 86:
"Technologies get cheaper as they are more widely used. If you have worked in the tech sector you would know this a loop of fiber may cost $500 now but in 3 months when the company can keep pumping out those loops the prices continually drop."
Sorry, but most of the cost of fiber deployment today is labor and it's not going down.
Ever see the cost of fiber routers ? any which way the labor is always there. The parts will get cheaper and reduce costs. It's a fact of life that labor rates increase. Cutting costs where ever they can will help them anyway.
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