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uPl0Ad3r

@comcast.net

reply to kd6cae

Why you don't get more upstream

When people DOWNLOAD they have to request the data (ie start a download, play a streaming video file, etc).

When people UPLOAD a lot of the time its unattended (P2P, uploading to friends, etc).

If you download a 50mb file on a 3mbit line, it takes only a few minutes. Then share it back out @ 3mbit on P2P and you can upload over 30 gigs in 24 hours. One of these two actions uses a lot more resources, guess which one?

All consumer broadband is OVERSOLD. That means even though your line may be rated at X-mbit, only a small fraction of users are actually using bandwidth. This ratio is commonly 1/20 (1mbit backbone for every 20mbit sold to consumers) and even can be up to 1/50 in some places.

So mix 3mbit upload, with P2P and warez monkeys and all of a sudden that T3 can only handle 15 users! Considering that kind of connection costs $10-15K/month, someone's gonna lose $$

kd6cae
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Well when I do want to send a file I just downloaded to a friend of mine I find myself uploading it to a friend's colocated server that is sitting on a 10MBPs semetrical connection, then uploading the file from there to my friend so he can get it at his max connection speed, not mine. Let's face it we do more on the internet then we did even 5 years ago. Of course faster upload will be used in part for p2p file sharing and related activities, I won't deny that at all, but does that mean we should never get the chance to see what else can be done with decent upload? we can do high quality internet broadcasts, or high quality real time voice chat to name a couple things. and if we ever want to do real time audio/video conferencing and have it be a decent quality audio and video that'll require decent upstream as well. Even latency will be a bit better. When I went from 128K upload to 768K upload, which is what I have now, my ping time to most sites went down nearly 7 miliseconds. Now that's probably not a big deal but who knows. Just my thoughts. I got 768K up the best I can get, so that I can use anything from p2p apps to being able to stream nice high quality audio and it works well. all I'm saying is if this technology can potentially do better than we currently get in the upstream direction then prove it! The reason downloads at least in p2p cases don't max bandwidth is obvious, you're downloading from users who's max upload is 128-384K and it would take several users at that speed to even max a 1.5MBit line. It's just amazing to me that most providers are more than willing to let us receive data at very decent speeds, but to send data, regardless of the type of data or purpose, we get hardly anything. OK enough ranting from me, I'll go back to enjoying my 768K upstream and my 6MBit download.


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