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 nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | reply to insomniac84
Re: SBC Not that any of this is germane to the topic at hand...
said by insomniac84:
I don't understand the true ethernet comment, as I don't understand the concept of fake ethernet. The speed of the port in a dorm has nothing to do with how much bandwith a school has.
True as in full line-speed not some policy imposed fraction thereof.
said by insomniac84:
For all we know purdue could have an OC-384 and Penn
Given that you mention Purdue, which is another Big Ten school, you should know that it's Penn State and not Penn. They are two different schools. The former is a large, state-funded (hence the "State" in the name) university system with campuses all over the state of Pennsylvania; the latter is a private college in Philadelphia with a well-known and highly respected business school.
said by insomniac84:
could have 1 T3.
Possibly ...at one of the satellite campuses.
said by insomniac84:
A network port is only going to be a limiting factor if you max it out. Since 5-6mbps is not 10mbps, obviously 100mbps would make no difference.
That's kind of an opaque statement. If you don't have port limit policies in place - i.e., you are allowed to speak line speed - it can make a real difference whether your network backbone supports 10Mbps or 100Mbps or higher speeds.
said by insomniac84:
Considering at all times of the day download speeds were consistent, I wouldn't say we got hosed. I would suck if everyone was unrestricted on gigabit, since that would most likely saturate the school's internet pipe and give everyone slower speeds and high pings.
So, if everyone WAS unrestricted, everyone would be making 24/7 max bandwidth requests out to the Internet at large? And, if they weren't restricted, everyone would get LESS than 5Mbps? So, Purdue is a single broadcast domain and doesn't make use of a switched topology? Interesting. So, no-one at Purdue uses the Campus Area Network (CAN) to speak to other nodes on the CAN? No-one makes use of the campus central computers from their dorm rooms? If so, that would be a rather interesting utilization pattern.
I dunno. I tend to think the number of students that would be fully utilizing their in-room connections for a significant portion of the days is rather small. At large institutions, like Purdue, there are a TON of other things to do instead of sitting on a computer all day: football games and other sporting events (I thought that Purdue has had some fairly decent sports teams over the years) to attend or take part in, fraternity and other parties, etc. I admit that the college experience may have changed radically since I graduated. However, I still gotta think that most students are still out, away from computers, trying to get drunk, get laid and have fun. So, said students aren't sitting there just saturating the network on a regular basis.
-tom
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| Your pathetic. What cares about the difference between penn and penn state. Of course their is a ton of shit to do. I was just trying to say that the dorm port doesn't mean shit, unless you are transferring between two points on purdue's campus. Then 10mbit sucks. But since most people who are maxing out their connections are downloading from the internet, 100mbit ports would not affect the majority of students. Also what is this so called interesting utilization pattern. Also I like how you used CAN as if thats an intricate term.
I would also like to point out that IU is 1 and Purdue is 2 in the most wireless campuses in the country(Every inch of both campuses is wireless). You can bash them all you want, but their network is a hell of a lot better than penns. | |
nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | said by insomniac84:
Your pathetic. What cares about the difference between penn and penn state.
No, what's pathetic is your fundamental inability to differentiate between two entirely different things, then get angered when your shortcomings are pointed out to you.
said by insomniac84:
Of course their is a ton of shit to do. I was just trying to say that the dorm port doesn't mean shit, unless you are transferring between two points on purdue's campus. Then 10mbit sucks. But since most people who are maxing out their connections are downloading from the internet, 100mbit ports would not affect the majority of students.
Wow. A correct statement from you... But yes, you are right, it wouldn't effect the majority of students because the majority of students aren't spending their time maxing out their connection to the internet. Normal college students are out doing other things.
said by insomniac84:
Also what is this so called interesting utilization pattern. Also I like how you used CAN as if thats an intricate term.
It might be intricate for you. If so, I suggest you do some extended reading on the subject. A good starting point would be here (in particular, see definition #1).
said by insomniac84:
I would also like to point out that IU is 1 and Purdue is 2 in the most wireless campuses in the country
Yes, because wireless penetration is definitely the definition of technology.
said by insomniac84:
(Every inch of both campuses is wireless).
Both campuses? As in IU has one campus and Purdue has one campus? I was under the impression that Purdue consisted of more than one campus? Or, do the other campuses simply not count?
said by insomniac84:
You can bash them all you want, but their network is a hell of a lot better than penns.
Well, unless you have full access to the infrastructure maps for both Purdue and U Penn (since you keep saying "Penn") or Penn State, I'm not really sure how you can make such an unqualified statement.
-tom
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"There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't."
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