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Re: yea said by achuchma:
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In all fairness though, The U.S. is much larger physically than Japan. To wire the entire country for fiber would be very very expensive.
I think that is the point that many Americans tend to miss. In Japan, buildings in major cities are so stacked, that running fiber is easy.
Here, in the US, we tend to deal with larger lots, more room between buildings, etc...
And, as you said, a far greater geographical area.
Personally, I like that extra space. I don't know how many people here have been to Japan, but it is very crowded. You don't get hardly any space to yourself. I like my house, but I couldn't get a 3 bedroom house with a basement in Japan. Space is such a consideration. Which is why it is also cheaper to deploy broadband and fiber.
Speaking of deploying fiber, it is very expensive. Some of our company plants have fiber running about 500 feet to other sides of the plant. A 500 foot run of fiber alone is upwards of $2000! The fiber modules can run thousands as well. Even if you get cat5e tranceivers, those are not cheap either. I think our last ones costed us $750 for both ends. Fiber modules are about $750-$1000 for our switches and that is each module.
Not cheap that is for sure.
Maybe they should come up with a deal. If you have fiber running near your house, you can pay up to have it run to your house. Lets say you are 250 feet away. Cost to run the fiber will be $1000, plus you have to pay for the transceivers or fiber modules. Who here would plunk down $2000 up front for fiber to their home plus about $100 a month for service? I might be tempted...but I don't know many home users who would even consider that. Heck, we can't even get normal users to get off dialup when DSL alternatives exist for $27 in their area. :P
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I don't know how many people here have been to Japan, but it is very crowded. You don't get hardly any space to yourself.
"Very crowded" is an understatement. Night clubs in Chicago get very crowded on Friday night...Japan is insanely crowded.
said by Nightfall:
Speaking of deploying fiber, it is very expensive. Some of our company plants have fiber running about 500 feet to other sides of the plant. A 500 foot run of fiber alone is upwards of $2000! The fiber modules can run thousands as well. Even if you get cat5e tranceivers, those are not cheap either. I think our last ones costed us $750 for both ends. Fiber modules are about $750-$1000 for our switches and that is each module.
Exactly....and that was just inside a building. Think of all the costs involved in an outside deployment. Add permits and levies to all that, you are looking at one hell of a price tag!
said by Nightfall:
Maybe they should come up with a deal. If you have fiber running near your house, you can pay up to have it run to your house. Lets say you are 250 feet away. Cost to run the fiber will be $1000, plus you have to pay for the transceivers or fiber modules. Who here would plunk down $2000 up front for fiber to their home plus about $100 a month for service? I might be tempted...but I don't know many home users who would even consider that. Heck, we can't even get normal users to get off dialup when DSL alternatives exist for $27 in their area. :P
You are probably one of the very few that would....
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Agreed I think there are many people out there that would be willing to pay the extra money to have fiber to there house. I certainly would. | |
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said by Nightfall:
Maybe they should come up with a deal. If you have fiber running near your house, you can pay up to have it run to your house. Lets say you are 250 feet away. Cost to run the fiber will be $1000, plus you have to pay for the transceivers or fiber modules. Who here would plunk down $2000 up front for fiber to their home plus about $100 a month for service? I might be tempted...but I don't know many home users who would even consider that. Heck, we can't even get normal users to get off dialup when DSL alternatives exist for $27 in their area. :P
With that line of thought if I paid x amount to have fiber, than when I moved to a new location I can take what I paid for with me? Also will I get a discount from the provider I go with since I purchase additional equipment?
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said by Nightfall:
Maybe they should come up with a deal. If you have fiber running near your house, you can pay up to have it run to your house. Lets say you are 250 feet away. Cost to run the fiber will be $1000, plus you have to pay for the transceivers or fiber modules. Who here would plunk down $2000 up front for fiber to their home plus about $100 a month for service? I might be tempted...but I don't know many home users who would even consider that. Heck, we can't even get normal users to get off dialup when DSL alternatives exist for $27 in their area. :P
With that line of thought if I paid x amount to have fiber, than when I moved to a new location I can take what I paid for with me? Also will I get a discount from the provider I go with since I purchase additional equipment?
Well, that is like my company thinking they could take the fiber with them when they leave. I would have to say...why not? You paid for it. I can't see us leaving behind 500 feet of fiber if we left one of our plants. That is expensive wiring. As for the discount, I don't see any reason why not.
All this is just a big "what if" scenario obviously. The main point I was trying to make is why you won't see FTTH anytime in the near future. It isn't like it runs through wiring that is already in the home. You are looking at an INCREDIBLE expense of money and time to run the fiber to your home. Especially if you have lit fiber already within 400 feet of your home. You think 400 feet is very close, but the wiring and equipment to do the job costs thousands of dollars.
That along with the fact that people are so unwiling to pay for high end broadband for a premium price. Heck, we can't even get people to pay $45 a month without complaining about something. Then we have the users on dialup AOL with a extra phone line when they have DSL alternatives for $25-$30 a month in their area. 
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