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BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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reply to shadowshack

Re: Why so blase' ?

That is not the big issue here. The big issue is he is not an American citizen he should not be tried by our laws like this. He didn't commit the crime in the US he did it from his home in Australia.

A big difference in what you are saying. If he had broken into a company and taken the software in the US I would agree but he didn't. They charge hackers in their respective countries why not the same here. Because the us government bends over to the entertainment industry.
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Andromeda451

join:2004-04-08
Queen Creek, AZ

BostonesOwn,

So the IRA ships a bomb to an editor in Boston and kills him via a phone call to a hidden cell phone. Since the crime was committed from Ireland and results in a killing in the USA he should be tried under Ireland Laws? Better yet, an Illegal Alien kills a Cop in LA and runs to The Motherland (aka Mexico) and since he's across the line he can't be pulled back here and charged because he's not a citizen? You arguments don't pass the stink test.

Clue: He allegedly stole SW from US companies, doing business on US soil. If he allegedly stole SW from a UK company that would be the UKs problem.



BIGMIKE
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join:2002-06-07
Westminster, CA

reply to BosstonesOwn

said by BosstonesOwn:
That is not the big issue here. The big issue is he is not an American citizen he should not be tried by our laws like this. He didn't commit the crime in the US he did it from his home in Australia.

A big difference in what you are saying. If he had broken into a company and taken the software in the US I would agree but he didn't. They charge hackers in their respective countries why not the same here. Because the us government bends over to the entertainment industry.

it more like the American people and the world bends over to are U.S Government.

BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
Reviews:
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reply to Andromeda451

said by Andromeda451:
BostonesOwn,

So the IRA ships a bomb to an editor in Boston and kills him via a phone call to a hidden cell phone. Since the crime was committed from Ireland and results in a killing in the USA he should be tried under Ireland Laws? Better yet, an Illegal Alien kills a Cop in LA and runs to The Motherland (aka Mexico) and since he's across the line he can't be pulled back here and charged because he's not a citizen? You arguments don't pass the stink test.

Clue: He allegedly stole SW from US companies, doing business on US soil. If he allegedly stole SW from a UK company that would be the UKs problem.

He committed the crime in the US if he did it from Ireland then yes Ireland should deal with the problem. Murder is different then a theft of software. It is highly different. People like to use human life and swap it in place of a product. It just isn't the same. Human life has no value, a piece of software does.

If the Mexican killed the cop in the US he gets extradited to the US to face charges he was on our land when he did it.

What is the issue with people in the US wanting to enforce our laws all over the world. Human life is different then a product and should be treated as such.

Andromeda you don't understand my point. Australia should deal with him no matter what he is their citizen and it's software not human life. The US or UK companies have no right to go across the world to prosecute this guy. If they have no presence in that country then the government should ignore them. And prosecute for the companies loses that are present in that country.

If I stole a pack of gum in Pakistan said gum pack is from a us company should I be extradited to the us to face charges ? NO I shouldn't be. You can not interchange a human life with an inanimate object. That's not the way things work.

And I am not saying what the guy did was right or am I saying go piracy go. I am saying that this is not the US's problem to deal with he commit Australian crimes that hurt a us corporation or a host of ones at that. He didn't kill a kid, he didn't blow up buildings. He stole software and conspired to steal software. So let the Australian government lay down their law not our law on him and don't bring him to our country.
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BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA

reply to BIGMIKE
Indeed. they all bend over. and it's a damn shame. this country wasn't found on those principal.
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Andromeda451

join:2004-04-08
Queen Creek, AZ

reply to BosstonesOwn
BostonesOwn,

I don't agree with you but hey it's cool, Thank you for the well thought out response!

regards,
Andromeda


BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA

No one ever agrees on everything we are all human
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