BeeperPart Of The Problem
join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH | reply to BosstonesOwn
Re: more money down the drain said by BosstonesOwn:
Ok I get your point on some, but it's not right. He broke a US law from another country. How can we enforce that law. It's not right that we do.
Extradition from and to the US is a normal thing. It has been codified for quite some time. Various nations have mutual treaty obligations to do so.
said by BosstonesOwn:
If I broke the law in some other country by going over the speed limit here how can they come and arrest me ?
A treaty has the same force of law as does the Constitution, or at least is supposed to. It is doubtful that you'd be extradited on misdemeanor traffic charges, but this isn't what the fellow is being changed with, eh?
said by BosstonesOwn:
I don't know if you guys really understand why this is a sort of ground breaking case.
It's not ground breaking. Many people think that the Internet repeals national laws, rational business practices, or the need to call their mom each week. Felonies are routinely committed by people in one location and are prosecuted for such conduct in another. The Internet is just another tool in the arsenal of a criminal. Using the Internet does not automatically provide a shield or get out of jail card for people under indictment.
said by BosstonesOwn:
If the RIAA decides your from Australia and decides to press charges on you for stealing music. They can site this case as a reason to get you sent to the US.
That's a feature, not a bug.
said by BosstonesOwn:
Think of other implications this can have on society.
The implications are stunning. US citizens may be prosecuted and subject to beheading in Saudi Arabia for producing "pornography" that in the US would be found on Sesame Street.
said by BosstonesOwn:
The US government becoming the world wide government soon.
That already happened a long time ago. Most of the planet has abdicated defending themselves and their sovereignty, instead placing it in the hands of Washington DC. They have placed their national economies in the hands of the Federal Reserve. They have placed their best and brightest pupils in American universities, hoping that some of them return back home afterwards. They have entered into trade pacts that are quite lopsidedly in favor of the US.
All that's left for most nations is traffic regulation and their rights to wear silly hats.
said by BosstonesOwn:
In 10 years if a Japanese kid is caught hacking a porn site for cheap thrills are you gonna extradite him to the US to face charges ?
Yes, and this could happen today, if the server was in a US jurisdiction.
said by BosstonesOwn:
And the government in this country is by the people for the people. This means if they hate our government they hate us as well. The government is our representatives.
Notice I said America, and not the current administration. Most of the planet hated us 10 years ago, and most of the planet will hate us in 10 years when the US is under new management.
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