Comcast fiber? in Comcast HSI http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r10844895 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:22:07 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:22:07 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10854301 jasqid :
said by Morac See Profile:
Comcast still has "wiggle room" in terms of increasing speeds and the like with what they have now yet they aren't in any rush to increase speeds even though it would require very little work.

Going to every town that Comcast services and running the fiber from the nodes to every house would be extremely expensive and time consuming.

Not to mention that in many areas (like mine) all the cables are underground. This would require Comcast to dig up the cables under streets and in peoples' yards in order to replace them. Not only would this require permission of the home owner, but it would be extremely costly. Plus who would re-sow the lawns when they are done?


The cable underground is usually not in conduit. At least it wasnt here. I'm refering to the Lead line down the road (I think it's R-11?) It's really thick stuff.

But from the pedestal in the yard to my house I put it in conduit! They can run the fiber down the road and I'll run it up to the road from my house! ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10854301 Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:11:40 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10853845 mbernste : With our current regulatory climate here in NJ, we will be the 50th state to see fiber from Verizon. Kind of ironic, considering that NJ is (was?) the heart of the telecommunications industry with AT&T.

If VZ finally does fulfill their promise (heck, they even have prices and tiers now), I think they will compete big time with the cable operators. I would not be surprised if they omit a "no server" clause in their AUP. Like their DSL service, I do not expect to see caps. You want to know why Comcast stopped sending out bandwidth abuse letters? Its because of the VZ ad lambasting Comcast for their unknown usage limits and service terminations. VZ let out all the guns with Comcast with DSL, and will do the same with fiber.
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Comcast BBQ ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10853845 Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:16:11 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10853819 neftv : Wishful thinking but Verizon won't go bankrupt. With all the money they stole from PA and I read they only doing test markets for fiber to see what Verizon's cost is going to be for Fiber outlay they will probably halt for being to expensive before they go bankrupt.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10853819 Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:04:11 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10853497 EnasYorl : Really? One clue. Analog or Digital modulation of light?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10853497 Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:10:53 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10853491 EnasYorl : A snowball's chance in he'll]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10853491 Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:09:35 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10851269 AEHMOTX :
said by PyThro See Profile:
Here is your 2 year outlook. Verizon will fail with its fiber rollout, go bankrupt, Comcast buys them. Comcast fixes up Verizons fiber network and become bigger than Microsoft. GG.


Are you sure you really want that? Frankly I'd rather have it the other way around.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10851269 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:50:21 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10850979 PyThro : Here is your 2 year outlook. Verizon will fail with its fiber rollout, go bankrupt, Comcast buys them. Comcast fixes up Verizons fiber network and become bigger than Microsoft. GG.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10850979 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:19:45 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10850967 Nerdtalker : Even if they laid fiber to every home, do they even have the backbone bandwidth to support it?

I mean speeds over at least 20 megabits per house.
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Touch a thistle timidly, and it pricks you; grasp it boldly, and its spines crumble. -William S. Halsey]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10850967 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:17:38 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10850769 rody_44 : everybody knows verizons history. including me. but listening to him they are not blowing smoke this time. 6 months we will know for sure. he said by then they will be laying fiber all over the place. of course he also said that they already started laying it in new developements and i dont see any from verizon. but he claimed its laid and working in test areas. everything tells youb verizon has to do it to survive. this is steo for them to not only
survive but to expand. i wonder gow long until they argue they shouldnt have to share the lines since they will now have fiber with video services. its going to be hard for the washington to make verizon share and not other companys that offer the same services just a little slower.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10850769 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:53:00 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10850532 Qumahlin :
said by rody_44 See Profile:
i had a chance to speak to a engineer from verizon, he said the price wasnt decided yet. but said that verizon fully expects to kick comcasts ass. he went as far as predicting comcast would be unable to even stay in the game when the smoke clears. usually i would take a statement like that as a grain of salt. but speaking to him made me feel like they were planning a all out attack and stacking the deck ahead of time. the part that is going to really hurt comcast is the fact that direct tv programming is part of the package. the funny part was is how proud he was of what is going to be launched. i expect good things on the horizon for everybody. i know a war is coming. but i believe comcast will step up to the plate. oh yea i cant remember how many times he said comcast should have stayed out of the phone biz,


Heh yeah right. I talked to a verizon engineer who promised an RT was being put up 3k feet from me...that was 4 years ago. Verizon has a history of grandiose claims, i'll believe them when they manage to follow through on a single one.
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Forum Posts:5004]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10850532 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:30:09 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10849659 rody_44 : i had a chance to speak to a engineer from verizon, he said the price wasnt decided yet. but said that verizon fully expects to kick comcasts ass. he went as far as predicting comcast would be unable to even stay in the game when the smoke clears. usually i would take a statement like that as a grain of salt. but speaking to him made me feel like they were planning a all out attack and stacking the deck ahead of time. the part that is going to really hurt comcast is the fact that direct tv programming is part of the package. the funny part was is how proud he was of what is going to be launched. i expect good things on the horizon for everybody. i know a war is coming. but i believe comcast will step up to the plate. oh yea i cant remember how many times he said comcast should have stayed out of the phone biz,]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10849659 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:42:50 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10846518 Qumahlin : Keep in mind Verizon has yet to announce what restrictions come with their packages.

Because if you honeslty believe Verizon is gonna charge 45 bucks a month for a 20mbps/2mbps pipe and let you run crazy with it then you need a reality check.

Almost every "residential" fiber provider who charges insanely cheap prices has bandwidth/tranfer caps and strict rules about no servers of any sort especially p2p.
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Forum Posts:5004]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10846518 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:53:09 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10846314 mbernste :
said by Morac See Profile:
Comcast still has "wiggle room" in terms of increasing speeds and the like with what they have now yet they aren't in any rush to increase speeds even though it would require very little work.

In speaking to one of the top level engineers at Comcast a couple of years ago at a CATV hearing, he said there is no fundamental difference between our network and Cablevision's. If Cablevision can give 10/1, Comcast's current infrastructure can easily give that kind of speed. With some CMTS changes and a migration to DOCSIS 2.0, Comcast can match fiber speeds.
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Comcast BBQ ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10846314 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:34:08 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10846074 neftv : Aren't those underground via conduit? Oh well seems that excuses are always found why not to do something. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10846074 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:05:38 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10846056 somebodeez :
said by Morac See Profile:

Not to mention that in many areas (like mine) all the cables are underground.


They could start in my area if they like - our stuff is above ground :D
And even if our cable was underground, I wouldn't care about the lawn. That would be that much less grass I'd have to cut. Besides, the lawn would come back eventually.

C'mon, fellas I'll even bake cookies for you :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10846056 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:03:18 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10846026 Morac : Comcast still has "wiggle room" in terms of increasing speeds and the like with what they have now yet they aren't in any rush to increase speeds even though it would require very little work.

Going to every town that Comcast services and running the fiber from the nodes to every house would be extremely expensive and time consuming.

Not to mention that in many areas (like mine) all the cables are underground. This would require Comcast to dig up the cables under streets and in peoples' yards in order to replace them. Not only would this require permission of the home owner, but it would be extremely costly. Plus who would re-sow the lawns when they are done?
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said by neftv See Profile:
What a concept. I think Comcast could deploy FTTP to more homes quicker than Verizon could because Comcast almost has the ideal situation with the technology they offer today plus the got fiber to the streets already, right?
I am inclined to agree with this. I think you will see Comcast "keeping up with the Jones'" in this regard, especially with Brian Roberts' obsession with staying (or saying) one step ahead of the competition.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10845767 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:27:28 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10845680 neftv : What a concept. I think Comcast could deploy FTTP to more homes quicker than Verizon could because Comcast almost has the ideal situation with the technology they offer today plus the got fiber to the streets already, right? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10845680 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:17:58 EDT Re: Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10844957 J D McDorce : It may depend on how one defines future. ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10844957 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:34:45 EDT Comcast fiber? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10844895 PyThro : Comcast network is hybrid fiber coax currently with fiber running through or just out side the neighborhood areas and coax inside running to the homes. What would be the chances of Comcast sometime in the future replacing all of the coax in the neighborhoods with fiber making their net work all fiber? Verizon is starting to do this with their network and offering FTTP. It would be pretty cool to see Comcast do the same thing but maybe improve on Verizon's idea.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10844895 Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:24:54 EDT