| Well their goes the Municipal fight DSL providers probably made sure this story got out and will use it everywhere they plan municipal isp. Now we're gonna be reading about this in every Municipal story about how the DSL providers used the story to make their fight. |
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Winterset, IA | They sure don't want to talk about the sucessful Municipalities! |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by pcscdma:
They sure don't want to talk about the sucessful Municipalities!
There's no such thing as a successful municipal broadband venture. Every single municipally-run operation skims money from either taxpayers or from some other municipally run service like power, water, sewer, etc. In any case, its always the case that non-subscribers are paying more than they have to for some other service (or more in taxes) to pay for the subscribers.
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pnh do you or have you seen paperwork that proves that? Tacoma or how ever it's spelled is supposibly running in the black and hasn't messed with taxes. Are you trying to say that the municipalities that say they aren't in the red are? If so I would like proof of that. I don't some link to some story verizon or sbc has posted cause that would be a decieptful story. When I see a story that might come someone like telltruth the guy that has been telling the nasty little secrects about the telephone companies then maybe I will buy into it. At this point in time your statement about there being no such thing as a successful Muni is not backed up at all. I am not trying to start a flame war. I have seen a handful of your post and I believe you usually backup your statements with something but I don't see no backup on your statement this time. |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by XknightHawkX:
Tacoma or how ever it's spelled is supposibly running in the black and hasn't messed with taxes.
You're right. Taxes didn't go up in Tacoma to pay for their broadband service. They just raised the prices of electricity by 50%. You can go find more information about that on the Tri-Cities Broadband page.
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| Is there a direct connection with the electricity prices going up and the municipal broadband service? Who supplies the electricity? Is it municipally run or private? If it's private how is there a connection? |
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Yes, do go back and look at the TCBB page and read the letter from Diane Lachel: »www.tricitybroadband.com/failures.htm
Prices didn't go up because of the broadband utility. Stop spreading misinformation.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Octopussy2:
Prices didn't go up because of the broadband utility. Stop spreading misinformation.
The utility can blame other factors all they want, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that had they not spent the money on broadband, the prices would not have gone up as much as they had.
All I know is that if my electric company had to raise prices, that they had better not be wasting the extra money on things unrelated to electrical generation because that will drive up costs even more.
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| You need to backup what you say with proof and not speculation.
People who don't believe Govt. should run broadband utilities always use this argument of electric prices going up. It is a scare tactic and not based in truth in this example.
Cross subsidization is not allowed (RE: against the law and separate books must be maintained) in many areas with electric utilities for muni broadband ventures...BUT, why shouldn't it be allowed? After all, Comcast is allowed to "subsidize their digital phone service with revenue made from their cable tv service? And SBC makes money from their phone service and applies it towards their DSL service and MISINFORMATION campaigns across the country...and then raises rates to their customers. Hmmmmm? What about that?
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Let me ask again. Is the power company a municipal company or privately owned? If it's privately owned I would have a very hard time believing there is ANY connection since private companies don't pay operating expenses of government utilities. |
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| In Tacoma it is a muni utility. Please DO see our web site for the REAL letter and response from Ms. Lachel I mentioned above. We did our homework about Click! Tacoma. Let other "posters" rant and rave here about their beliefs. We provide the facts.
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| Cool site. |
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| Thanks. We try to provide facts about muni broadband since our own muni WWIII battle last year with incumbents SBC and Comcast, and our continuing battle this year. We are also a clearing house for misinformation campaigns against munis.
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