wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | There is some sanity in the world!! That has been my exact point. Should we ban copiers because they can be used to copy copyrighted works?
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 tcp1Premium
join:2000-04-17
Herndon, VA
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Puritan,
I know you say that with a bit of humor attached, but I'd bet you dollars to donuts that the answer from the RIAA or MPAA from your query could very possibly be "Yes."
At least, they'd be for a system which checks the content and restricts the copier from printing the page if it has not been deemed appropriate by the "rights holder". |
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 TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | reply to wentlanc
said by wentlanc:
That has been my exact point. Should we ban copiers because they can be used to copy copyrighted works?
puritan
In the old Soviet Union copying machines where considered to be a very dangerous device and where guarded 24/7.
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 MarillaI Am My Own ArbiterPremium
join:2002-12-06
Belpre, OH | reply to wentlanc
It's not the copying machines that should be banned... but if people start making full copies of books using them, then that USE of the machines violates copyright law.
Likewise... P2P networks and software in and of themselves are not illegal... but the use of them to illegally copy...
bleh.. nevermind.. why bother. You guys are right.. everything should be free... blah blah.. I'm done. 
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King75King Of All And NothingPremium
join:2004-07-31
Stevensville, MD | reply to wentlanc
Please books don't bring in the revenue that movies and CDs do. People would just stop reading. |
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 TexasGuy49 States And TexasPremium
join:2002-12-02
Houston, TX | reply to Transmaster
fax machines are much more dangerous |
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I'm sorry if you can't comprehend that if you weren't going to spend money on it, but would take it for free, obviously the creator loses nothing. |
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TexasGuy49 States And TexasPremium
join:2002-12-02
Houston, TX | said by insomniac84:
I'm sorry if you can't comprehend that if you weren't going to spend money on it, but would take it for free, obviously the creator loses nothing.
I guess they afraid that soon you get used so much to "sharing" because it is very CONVINIENT! No need to wait, no going to the mall, no shopping around. Click, click, download, done.
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 DaSneaky1Done wall to block them allPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
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Your claim has no merit here. And they are right, in this instance. Using a machine/program to obtain "illegal" copies of copywritten works is not wrong. Supposedly posessing those "illegal" copies is the problem.
If that was the case, then cd burners and cars would be "illegal" if someone made a copy of a song and drove the disk over a friend's house and gave the disk copy to them.
Shoot, if you really want to get into the nitty gritty, are computers "illegal" since they can be used to download GIF files? CompuServe owns the rights to that image format. I don't pay CS everytime I download a GIF file, though I have a copy of "their works" on my computer.
What if people decided to copywrite their website. Would my computer/brower be seen as "illegal" since I technically have a perfect copy of their page on my computer?
This is NOT a cut and dry issue.
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TexasGuy49 States And TexasPremium
join:2002-12-02
Houston, TX | And if you make a copy of a CD and drive it through a state border, it is a federal offence right there.
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This isn't funny..
The FBI just raided my house and took my printer/fax/copier.
What did i miss?
Oh Sen. Oran Hatch is @ it again..
Can citizens *buy* the government back? |
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 mrchrisOut and aroundPremium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | reply to wentlanc
MPAA is too dense to think DMCA is just an America only law |
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TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | reply to TexasGuy
said by TexasGuy:
fax machines are much more dangerous
They where in the same guarded rooms as the copy machines/
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 woody7Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA
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once you publish to the internet it is "presumed" to be copyrighted....you don't have to actually pay for the copyright, to collect any monetary compensation, you have to pay...if I'm not mistaken
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TexasGuy49 States And TexasPremium
join:2002-12-02
Houston, TX | reply to Transmaster
said by Transmaster:
said by TexasGuy:
fax machines are much more dangerous
They where in the same guarded rooms as the copy machines/
They don't have to guard rooms now, they use computers to save every fax that goes in and out.
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 mibagent_xGo giggle the handlePremium
join:2001-03-04
Barnhart, MO | reply to woody7
Change presumed to assumed. And we all know assumed is,
Assumption is the mother of all f***-ups
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said by DaSneaky1D:
Shoot, if you really want to get into the nitty gritty, are computers "illegal"
I personally have not read the Induce Act in its entirety, but if it is written broad enough, can you imagine the first lawsuit?
"Well the P2P program induced me to download the copyrighted work and the Microsoft XP made it easy (induced) me to download the P2P program and the Dell computer made it easy (induced) me to use the operating system and my ISP made it really fast (induced) for me to get online via the phone wires that verizon (induced) me to use while running on the power company's electricity (induced).
That list can get even longer if you want to nitpick the computer components apart (Nvidia/ATI, RAM, HDD, etc, not to mention peripherals like monitor, mouse, etc)
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 WaxPhotoI AM SAMPremium
join:2004-04-08
Roanoke, IN | reply to TexasGuy
Office Space comes to mind... |
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 pcscdmaChocobo Chocobo Random BattlePremium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA | reply to DaSneaky1D
said by DaSneaky1D:
Shoot, if you really want to get into the nitty gritty, are computers "illegal" since they can be used to download GIF files? CompuServe owns the rights to that image format. I don't pay CS everytime I download a GIF file, though I have a copy of "their works" on my computer.
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What if people decided to copywrite their website. Would my computer/brower be seen as "illegal" since I technically have a perfect copy of their page on my computer?
»www.unisys.com/about__unisys/lzw
Unisys has[had] the patents to LZW/GIF. They only charged to encode the files. They didn't charge anything to decode files. I continue to use PNG just as a protest against patents, as do many other people.
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