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 keith2468Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB
1 edit | reply to eburger68
Re: MyNetInfector So Suzi at Spyware Warrior tells you that stumbled across an anti-spyware application that takes the cake.
She tells you that It all starts with a visit to the home page for MyNetProtector, an alleged anti-spyware application, and that the home page is:
www.mynetprotector.com/landing.php?hop=0
You go there. You see a deceptive pop-up claiming that spyware has been detected on your system.
You think that people visiting the home page are getting a spurious pop-up.
But in fact the homepage is
»www.mynetprotector.com/
and Spyware Warrior has successfully spread a lie about a competitor.
I have no idea about the MyNetProtector, I see the junk in the EULA, so it obviously comes with a lot of hidden ad-ware, but obviously also, assuming I read Eric's post correctly, we can't trust Spyware Warrior to be honest about its competitors.
I mean, since when do home pages end with landing.php?hop=0 ??? | | |
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 mers2Premium,MVM
join:2004-03-20
USA
kudos:8 | said by keith2468:
So Suzi at Spyware Warrior tells you that stumbled across an anti-spyware application that takes the cake.
She tells you that It all starts with a visit to the home page for MyNetProtector, an alleged anti-spyware application, and that the home page is:
www.mynetprotector.com/landing.php?hop=0
You go there. You see a deceptive pop-up claiming that spyware has been detected on your system.
You think that people visiting the home page are getting a spurious pop-up.
But in fact the homepage is
»www.mynetprotector.com/
and Spyware Warrior has successfully spread a lie about a competitor.
I have no idea about the MyNetProtector, I see the junk in the EULA, so it obviously comes with a lot of hidden ad-ware, but obviously also, assuming I read Eric's post correctly, we can't trust Spyware Warrior to be honest about its competitors.
I mean, since when do home pages end with landing.php?hop=0 ???
Have you read the posts from Eric, Suzi and Rifleman detailing the crap this software put on their machines?? I'd say their point has been well proven and is not the lie you claim it is. | |
keith2468Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB
1 edit | Yes, Mers, did you read what I posted.
How long have these guys been on the web and they don't know what home page URLs look like?
When people speak about competitor's products, listen carefully and see what they reveal a lot about themselves.
The homepage they give for the competitor product is not the real homepage.
The actual homepage doesn't have the pop-up that the page with the positive results flag does. You've been fooled.
Sure the other product apparently has crap spyware.
But the topic is what was stated or quoted in the original post.
It is important to be able to trust anti-spyware vendors. If they get caught exaggerating the bad point of other products, or making out right false statements about the home page ... not good.
It could be carelessness, it could be lack of expertise, it could be that the investigation is in the preliminary stages. But I mean, the homepage not being that URL with the failed test flags on it.
I wouldn't trust either product.
I don't trust security vendors that post explict exploits in open forums either.
I'm fussy that way. There are a lot of those guys that I view as not having the business ethics to be trusted with the keys to my systems. Those who secretly spread adware are one catagory.
Those who make up things about their competitors are another. And this is true even when the compitor truely is untrustworthy.
Remember, security products run with full system privliges, just like most other programs, and that gives them the keys to your shop. You have to trust that the business ethics of the software vendors whoses products you download, and that they won't sabotage your system or other products.
If you don't have the facilities or expertise to do a full analysis of their products yourself, you can still do an analysis of their ethics by reading what they say. | |
 CudniLa Merma - VigiladoPremium,MVM
join:2003-12-20
Someshire
kudos:13 | Why does that page exist, what is its purpose? Do any of downloaded progs, from that site, lead to landing.php?
Cudni
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keith2468Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB | Cudni, do you think it is their homepage?
Or do you think maybe it isn't their homepage?
Eric quotes that it is their homepage and that the pop-up appears to visitors if they merely visit the site, i.e. before any scans are run.
I suspect that it actually appears after the scans are run. Even if the pop-up appears whether your computer is infected or not, the description below is false:
quote:
Visitors are greeted with a deceptive popup claiming that spyware has been detected on their systems (see screenshot # 1).
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CudniLa Merma - VigiladoPremium,MVM
join:2003-12-20
Someshire
kudos:13 | No landing.php is not their home page as it, home page, reads »www.mynetprotector.com/index.php. Do you think it could have been changed? Why do they have the dodgy page on their site though, the one quoted and the one that competitors can seize upon?
Cudni
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keith2468Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB | Check out this homepage from Symantec:
»security.symantec.com/sscv6/sc_r···PNNUVIII
Or this one http://www.symantec.com
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suziPremium
join:2004-05-01 | reply to keith2468
said by keith2468:
So Suzi at Spyware Warrior tells you that stumbled across an anti-spyware application that takes the cake.
She tells you that It all starts with a visit to the home page for MyNetProtector, an alleged anti-spyware application, and that the home page is:
www.mynetprotector.com/landing.php?hop=0
You go there. You see a deceptive pop-up claiming that spyware has been detected on your system.
You think that people visiting the home page are getting a spurious pop-up.
But in fact the homepage is
»www.mynetprotector.com/
and Spyware Warrior has successfully spread a lie about a competitor.
I have no idea about the MyNetProtector, I see the junk in the EULA, so it obviously comes with a lot of hidden ad-ware, but obviously also, assuming I read Eric's post correctly, we can't trust Spyware Warrior to be honest about its competitors.
I mean, since when do home pages end with landing.php?hop=0 ???
Keith2468 - first of all I never used the term "home page". Evidently you did not read my blog post carefully, if at all.
»www.netrn.net/archives2/000642.html
I found the URL »www.mynetprotector.com/landing.php?hop=0
from this page, »www.clickbank.com/marketplace/?r···ketplace
which is a listing of Clickbank's products available for affiliates to sell.
When I clicked on the link for MyNetProtector, I landed here:
»x.cb.kount.com/pop/1093048685/0.···298384/?
You will notice the ( 0.mynp2004 ) in that link. That is the affiliate ID tracking code that tells clickbank which affiliate to credit for that click, or purchase.
That page is blank except for this text: quote:
This page has moved HERE
The word HERE is a hyperlink to this page:
»www.mynetprotector.com/landing.php?hop=0
You will notice the ( hop=0 ). That again tells Clickbank which affiliate link it came from. I've seen many of the Clickbank affiliate ID's in that same format and every affiliate has a unique ID.
The installer file for the scan is downloaded directly from MyNetProtector's site.
The installer from the hop=0 link is named MNPASSetup_cb02.exe. The installer from the "home page" as you call it, is named MNPASSetup001.exe. I just downloaded and installed it, then ran the scan. The results of the scan showed 661 false positives, whereas the first time I ran it, it showed 662 false positives. It did not install any malware/spyware. A scan with SpySweeper did not find anything. It did, however, put two files into startup, in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\, bnsyss32.exe and nssys32.exe.
Whoever used the affiliate ID ( 0.mynp2004 ) and the ( hop=0 ) uses a different installer which somehow downloads the spyware/malware. I think it's quite interesting that the affiliate ID is ( 0.myn22004 ) and the link came directly from Clickbank's listing.
On that same Clickbank page, there is one that leads to here: »x.cb.kount.com/pop/1093053143/0.···157394/? which goes here: »www.spyware-cop.com/?hop=0
Again the affiliate ID starts with ( 0 ) and has ( hop=0 ).
I am not in the business of selling software. I do have one affiliate link for Aluria's Spyware Eliminator on my blog page and 3 or so of their banner ads on some of my older website pages. My forum at »spywarewarrior.com has no ads.
Keith2468, my advice to you is to do some research before you attack and make accusations. At least then you would know what you are talking about.
I will update my blog to include the new information and today's testing. I'll come back here and post the link when it's done.
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keith2468Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB | Daphne / Suzi - I was commenting on what Erik posted. I didn't go to your blog page at all. You can probably tell that now that you've had time to read all the posts.
This is what I based my comments on, the original post by Eric here in this topic. And also a quick visit to the site concerned to find out what the homepage really did.
You might find the original post interesting reading:
quote:
Suzi at Spyware Warrior stumbled across an anti-spyware application that takes the cake, however, for sheer brazenness. It all starts with a visit to the home page for MyNetProtector, an alleged anti-spyware application:
»www.mynetprotector.com/landing.php?hop=0
Visitors are greeted with a deceptive popup claiming that spyware has been detected on their systems (see screenshot # 1).
Eric's post is pretty explicit about it being a homepage. Since he maintains product IE-Spyad I never figured it would be the kind of mistake he'd make, but from what you say...
You'll also note that I've already suspected and posted that I figure "Suzi at Spyware Warrior" refers to someone posting there, as opposed an employee of a company called Spyware Warrior.
quote:
In fact, is Spyware Warrior a vendor? Or is it just unaffiliated forums run by volunteers? Maybe the link was an innocent mistake by a volunteer?
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