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odog
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USA numba 1

at least we're number 1 at something.

Angrychair

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Jacksonville, FL

It's just a symptom of the real problem: Greed. The USA is number one in the world at material greed. There's a lot of people voting for bush that think they're going to heaven that really don't have a clue in the USA.


chesney09
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Judging from your response...
You don't have much of a clue.
What does your post have to do with the article? What does religion have to do with any of it? You must be Canadien, Aye?



BonezX
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he's pointing out bush's tax breaks, which people see as good things.

you have NO clue

it has allot to do with the article, he/she's pointing out the materalistic views of most americans, and the ratrace that seems to be neverending.

you must be american, duh


hedyd4u
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I am by no means rich and the tax cuts have helped me. Get a clue. I work for my money and do not want to be taxed to death. People who like taxes have no clue, and if you like taxes that much you can pay mine.



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said by BonezX:
he's pointing out bush's tax breaks, which people see as good things.

you have NO clue

it has allot to do with the article, he/she's pointing out the materalistic views of most americans, and the ratrace that seems to be neverending.

you must be american, duh

Don't take it personally if chesney09 doesn't know how to spell "Eh", Eh.

As to tax cuts, seems ironic to me that someone would actually oppose people not being indentured to the government, particularly when that someone thinks the government is run by the social elite and not the people of the country.

One person's rat race is another person's work ethic. Apparently there are a significant number of Canadians who have the same work ethic that pervades the US, as I've worked with some of them in offices here over the years.
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reply to chesney09
Was your ignorant jab at my nationality directed only to our Francaphone population ("Canadien", the french spelling) or simply indicative of your overall level of education and understanding?

Angrychair is from the voting impaired state, not Canada (if his profile is to be believed). You're from Michigan. Hmmm, have a teenager making trips to Canada for some forbidden BEvERages? Perhaps you've had a bad experience here yourself? Yes, rejection hurts.

BTW, it's "eh" not "aye." Or was that some form of distant literary reference?


Angrychair

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reply to chesney09
The point is simple, and you missed it completely. The USA has turned into a culture where greed being first is considered ok. All those taxes you don't want to pay are what prop up the society you enjoy living in. People hate paying taxes, but they love having good roads, schools (those that have children anyway), and emergency services. Other social services are just as integral in bringing society as a whole forward. (drug treatment, federal housing assistance, medicare, etc.)

Greed is the feeling you're leaning on when you think that you are "indentured to the government". The government is partially supposed here to make sure you (or the masses of people in general) don't have to work in a sweat shop 16 hours a day just to "pay off" what you owe your plantation owner. However, I'm sure you're so smart and great at what you do that that wouldn't be the situation for you, right? Don't kid yourself.



BonezX
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reply to AthlGrond
ratrace as in, will run over, trample, sabotage to get ahead, you know like the movie.

well there are allot of people pissed at bush over the iraq thing, yet he's still in office, why don't they just kick his ass out ? (or can't they anymore)



BonezX
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reply to hedyd4u
only two things are predictible, taxes and death



AthlGrond
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said by BonezX:
ratrace as in, will run over, trample, sabotage to get ahead, you know like the movie.
You need to stop basing all of your opinions on movies. Seriously.

said by BonezX:
well there are allot of people pissed at bush over the iraq thing, yet he's still in office, why don't they just kick his ass out ? (or can't they anymore)

And there are a lot of people who are pleased as punch that the Iraqi government is not going to be aiding terrorists any time soon.

Both sides get to cast votes in November.

I know you don't like elections, but that is the method we use to transfer power in our republic.
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Re: USA number 1


U.S. Spam Kings meet your future
We are also number one in exporting manufacturing and service
related jobs to countries that harbor spammers. Their must be some irony on this one.



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BonezX
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Re: USA numba 1

there is a way to get rid of a leader, i forget what it's called right now, but there's only been one president that has had it done to them.

i used the movie as an example of the phraze


AthlGrond
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said by BonezX:
there is a way to get rid of a leader, i forget what it's called right now, but there's only been one president that has had it done to them.
You can impeach a president for high crimes and misdemeanors. The catch is you need the political will to remove the president.

Truth be told the loony left hates W enough to try anything to get him out of office, but everyone else is willing to use the more traditional election process.

(Remember the Clinton impeachment for him lying under oath? Despite the perjury being 100% clear and proven, he was still not removed from office because of it, the political will just was not there.)

said by BonezX:
i used the movie as an example of the phraze
My point still stands.

I understood that you were using it as an example, and it was also clear you have no real idea of what it is like to live and work in the US.
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And there are a lot of people who are pleased as punch that the Iraqi government is not going to be aiding terrorists any time soon.

Both sides get to cast votes in November.

I know you don't like elections, but that is the method we use to transfer power in our republic.



The Iraqi Government may not be aiding terrorists, but us Americans have done such a thorough job at pissing off not only the people of Iraq but the rest of the world, I hardly think the former Iraqi Government (the one in which Bush and his staffers claim aided terrorist attacks on our soil when in fact they did not) would have logically posed any immediate threat to the U.S. But we did need an excuse for that precious, precious black gold. If that's not a material reason for justifying a war, I don't know what is. I'm sure if spam made the Bush clan as much money as their shady dealings with the petroleum market, they would be trying to invade the country with the next highest output of spam next to the U.S. claiming that our national security is at stake.

What I don't understand is how people can be lead so easily by the Republicans in believing that Kerry didn't serve this country with honor. Unlike draft dodging Bush. It makes me sick that people refuse to wake up from the "Matrix" in which they live. Don't be lead like sheep to a slaughter, think about what really is happening to this country as a result of an ever-increasing love of money that many of the wealthy have. To be "fair and balanced" It's not just corruption on the conservative-Republican, but the liberal-Democrat AND anyone caught in the middle, with too much money and time on their hands. Money is absolute power, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Thanks for the rant.



BonezX
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reply to AthlGrond
well if you and another person were applying for a job, and they had a criminal record for theft or somthing along those lines and diden't mention it and you knew about it, would you use that as a way to lessen their chances at the job and heighten your chances ?



AthlGrond
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said by BonezX:
well if you and another person were applying for a job, and they had a criminal record for theft or somthing along those lines and diden't mention it and you knew about it, would you use that as a way to lessen their chances at the job and heighten your chances ?

No.

But I might rat them out anyway depending on the kind of job and the kind of crime. Some kinds of criminals are bared by law from having certain kinds of jobs.

Have you ever had a job interview? It is extremely unlikely that I would know what someone else mentions or does not mention in their job interview, particularly if I'm in competition for the same job. The only ways I can imagine knowing would be if a) I already knew the other person and they tell me directly (why would they?), or b) the interviewer was grossly negligent (why would I want to work for a bunch of incompetent nitwits?).

Perhaps you have a more realistic ethical question?
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BonezX
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well we will use copyrights as an example, you know of a company that is about to copyright somthing (like someone in there got wasted at a bar and told you because you were the closest person there)that will make everyone in the company rich beyond anything they could possibly need, and you were desprately in debt (credit cards, carpayments, house payments) would you use the information you had gotten from the drunk and draw up a rough sketch based on what he told you and send it to be copyrighted before the company that originally made it so they would have to pay you to use it ?



AthlGrond
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No, why would I trust a drunk? Especially one with such an unbelievable story?

But seriously, no I wouldn't.

I don't think we are getting anywhere here, you can ask almost anything and I can give a pat answer that will make me look like the second coming. We don't need to go any further.

Talk to you later.
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sherpaboy

join:2001-07-06
Seattle, WA

reply to Angrychair
The Greed you are referring to is the same greed that encouraged the Irish, Germans, Poles, Chinese, Russians, etc to leave behind the poverty in their home countries for a better life here in the US. They worked in sweat shops, were buried in mines, died building the railroads, and it was still better than from where they came. THEY CHOSE TO COME HERE AND WORK IN SWEATSHOPS OUT OF GREED! THEY WANTED A BETTER LIFE! Greed is part of every human, every animal, every plant every organism. Americans have not cornered the market on greed, and the Chinese are trying hard to prove that as they work hard to heat up their economy.

The taxes we pay do not really "PROP UP" our society, and in most cases they actually slow it down. The GREED of big government is what removes the incentive for one to improve their station in life. And yes, I do mind paying taxes for things like Schools, drug treatment, (and the war on drugs), Federal Housing and Medicare. These programs have all had a negative impact on our culture.

Most Americans, and even most seniors, know little or nothing about Medicare. Even before Medicare was created in 1965, more than three out of four seniors (that's 75%) were protected by a safety net for medical assistance and the average life expectancy for older Americans was on the rise. The growth of Medicare forced seniors into a regime that restricts their health care choices, fails to protect them against catastrophic medical costs, jeopardizes the doctor-patient relationship, and threatens to invade their medical privacy.

Since the government has taken over education (about 175 years ago), the percentage of total income that actually makes it to schools has gone down, while the amount we are taxed continues to go up. This is called government waste.

Federal housing means that if I work hard, and am a productive member of society, I am punished. I am taxed so that someone else (of even more modest means) can become a home owner while I continue to rent.

Nowhere in the Constitution is the government tasked from keeping us out of sweatshops. This is just another indication that you are from the generation that thinks that the world owes them something. Please tell me why it is better to be indentured by the government than by a plantation owner?

Why is it that you assume that most people are so stupid and ill-equipped to deal with the world that it takes an intrusive, expensive government to take care them at what amounts to not much more than subsistence levels?


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