I can believe these numbers

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antiphishing Phishing Scam Terminator Premium join:2004-06-09 Wilkes Barre, PA kudos:2 Reviews: ·PenTeleData ·ProLog	I can believe these numbers 1. United States 42.53% 2. South Korea 15.42% 3. China (& Hong Kong) 11.62% 4. Brazil 6.17% 5. Canada 2.91% 6. Japan 2.87% 7. Germany 1.28% 8. France 1.24% 9. Spain 1.16% 10. United Kingdom 1.15% 11. Mexico 0.98% 12. Taiwan 0.91% The number go to show you that Americans jobs continue to be lost which means people in this country are turning to alterative means for a income. -- Dslreports.com Forum No-Spin zone starts here. »www.antihotmail.com spammers_are_scumbags@antihotmail.com
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BonezX Basement Dweller Premium join:2004-04-13 Canada	or they just don't want to work and that's an easy way to get money
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footballdude Premium join:2002-08-13 Imperial, MO	said by BonezX: or they just don't want to work and that's an easy way to get money Bingo!!! Unemployment is pretty much the same now as it was in the boom of the 90s. There is a significant portion of the population that will always be unemployed (recently got fired, laid off, quit, etc. and haven't yet found a new job; job skills have become obsolete and need to retrain or accept a lesser paying job; see no need to look for a job as long as Uncle Sucker keeps sending checks; etc.). There's also a number of people that put fifteen years or so into the work force and get real tired of getting up every morning and don't want to put another ten years in and earn a retirement so they find an excuse to go on disability. Because of these things and more, it is nearly impossible to get unemployment any lower than four or five percent.
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Beeper Part Of The Problem join:2001-09-27 Dayton, OH	reply to antiphishing said by antiphishing: The number go to show you that Americans jobs continue to be lost which means people in this country are turning to alterative means for a income. Today, more Americans are working for higher wages and greater benefits than at any time in history. Look it up at bls.gov. -- Guaranteed Fear and Loathing. Abandon all hope. Prepare for the Weirdness. Get familiar with Cannibalism.
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antiphishing Phishing Scam Terminator Premium join:2004-06-09 Wilkes Barre, PA kudos:2 Reviews: ·PenTeleData ·ProLog 1 edit	_____________________________________________________________ Today, more Americans are working for higher wages and greater benefits than at any time in history. _____________________________________________________________ I think you mean Americans are working longer hours for higher wages and paying more money out of pocket to get better medical benefits. This is now the American way with corporations trying to compete with counties like China and India. The bottom line is, why be a puppet to some corporation when you can sit home and spam the internet. As more and more jobs are lost in the Unites States, the more people will take up spamming to make a income. -- Dslreports.com Forum No-Spin zone starts here. »www.antihotmail.com spammers_are_scumbags@antihotmail.com
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Beeper Part Of The Problem join:2001-09-27 Dayton, OH	said by antiphishing: I think you mean Americans are working longer hours for higher wages and paying more money out of pocket to get better medical benefits. Today, there are 23 million more people at work than in Q2 1989. Today, the total civilian workforce works an average of 33.7 hours a week. That's down from 34.7 in Q2 1989. I made a inaccurate statement about wages. Current wages (in constant dollar terms) are not at an all time high. The all time high happened last year. 2004 wages are on par with 2002 wages. Employer benefits are up 92% since Q2 1989. Of course there are higher costs for medical. You said it was to get better benefits. If you want to really control medical costs, shoot a few trial lawyers, raise taxes on income derived from torts, and eliminate employer-based insurance. Individuals who are exposed to the true costs of health care will take capitalist measures that will cut costs and provide better net results. said by antiphishing: The bottom line is, why be a puppet to some corporation when you can sit home and spam the internet. As more and more jobs are lost in the Unites States, the more people will take up spamming to make a income. The point is why be a puppet to an ideologue spouting off a gloom and doom scenario that is patently a lie. As more and more jobs ae created in the US, the more people will take up spamming to fleece wealthy Americans. -- Guaranteed Fear and Loathing. Abandon all hope. Prepare for the Weirdness. Get familiar with Cannibalism.
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antiphishing Phishing Scam Terminator Premium join:2004-06-09 Wilkes Barre, PA kudos:2 Reviews: ·PenTeleData ·ProLog	____________________________________________________________ The point is why be a puppet to an ideologue spouting off a gloom and doom scenario that is patently a lie. As more and more jobs ae created in the US, the more people will take up spamming to fleece wealthy Americans. ____________________________________________________________ Wow , very good argument and one of better ones I've seen in the forum. . Do you watch Bill O'Reily? First I don't spout off gloom and doom predictions. My response to your argument is that I don't see how you can state that more jobs are being created in the United States. Maybe at the local Walmart but when it comes to manufacturing jobs that pay well, then in my opinion I think you are wrong. I worked in manufacturing and can tell you from experience that a lot of the companies that I worked for all no longer in business. Those jobs in high tech manufacturing are gone and are not coming back. Sure their might me more jobs in the service sector industries but manufacturing jobs are being hurt by cheap imports from China, NAFTA and the outsourcing of skilled employment to India. Forty four millions Americans don't have access to a health care program and must rely on the Emergency room at the local hospital. The health care problem is getting worse not better. I would love to know where you are getting your statistics on " civilian workforce works an average of 33.7 hours a week" That's is not happening in the northeast part of the United States. Are you taking about part time jobs in the service sector? If good paying manufacturing jobs are leaving this country or being eliminated , then tell me what are people suppose to do. Go back to college to get skills for a job that may or may not be their when you are done. If working at the local Walmart or Burger King doesn't pay the bills, then people will be forced into finding other means to make money. It just sad that some people have low enough morals to make money illegally by spamming the internet. Vote against both Bush and Kerry. Bill O'Reily for President. -- Dslreports.com Forum No-Spin zone starts here. »www.antihotmail.com spammers_are_scumbags@antihotmail.com
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Beeper Part Of The Problem join:2001-09-27 Dayton, OH	said by antiphishing: Wow , very good argument and one of better ones I've seen in the forum. . Do you watch Bill O'Reily? There's not enough nudity on TV for me to bother watching. said by antiphishing: First I don't spout off gloom and doom predictions. I think you did. You stated that more and more jobs are being lost. BLS data shows the opposite. Millions are being added annually. said by antiphishing: My response to your argument is that I don't see how you can state that more jobs are being created in the United States. Series Id: LNS12000000Q Seasonal Adjusted Series title: (Seas) Employment Level Labor force status: Employed Type of data: Number in thousands Age: 16 years and over Year Qtr1 Qtr2 Qtr3 Qtr4 1989 116835 117205 117494 117774 1990 119114 118995 118712 118361 1991 117782 117729 117660 117679 1992 117958 118407 118753 118834 1993 119297 119960 120626 121152 1994 121994 122596 123245 124450 1995 124849 124629 124934 125221 1996 125542 126280 127218 127840 1997 128496 129340 129950 130504 1998 130782 131259 131568 132294 1999 132943 133215 133571 134275 2000 136609 136933 136709 137357 2001 137703 137060 136758 136253 2002 136061 136318 136875 136694 2003 137355 137585 137647 138369 2004 138388 138793 27 million jobs have been created in the last 15 years. said by antiphishing: Maybe at the local Walmart but when it comes to manufacturing jobs that pay well, then in my opinion I think you are wrong. Why the Wal Mart crack? Do you consider the job disreputable? Is providing rock bottom prices to American consumers wrong? Series Id: CES3000000001 Seasonally Adjusted Super Sector: Manufacturing Industry: Manufacturing NAICS Code: N/A Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS 1990 17796 1991 17329 1992 16839 1993 16790 1994 16853 1995 17259 1996 17206 1997 17298 1998 17621 1999 17426 2000 17281 2001 17093 2002 15573 2003 14838 2004 14314 About 3.4 million manufacturing jobs have been lost. Meanwhile, US wages skyrocketed. Series Id: CES0500000004 Seasonally Adjusted Super Sector: Total private Industry: Total private NAICS Code: N/A Data Type: AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS OF PRODUCTION WORKERS 1990 344.00 1991 353.28 1992 362.48 1993 374.56 1994 384.94 1995 395.72 1996 400.19 1997 420.86 1998 441.84 1999 455.80 2000 472.66 2001 488.03 2002 497.87 2003 513.08 2004 523.56 said by antiphishing: I worked in manufacturing and can tell you from experience that a lot of the companies that I worked for all no longer in business. Those jobs in high tech manufacturing are gone and are not coming back. Your personal experience is deceiving you. Wages are way up. Hours worked are down. Benefits are up. Prices are down. said by antiphishing: Forty four millions Americans don't have access to a health care program and must rely on the Emergency room at the local hospital. The health care problem is getting worse not better. The emergency room is a health care program. said by antiphishing: I would love to know where you are getting your statistics on " civilian workforce works an average of 33.7 hours a week" Series Id: CES0500000005 Seasonally Adjusted Super Sector: Total private Industry: Total private NAICS Code: N/A Data Type: AVERAGE WEEKLY HOURS OF PRODUCTION WORKERS 1989 34.7 1990 34.4 1991 34.1 1992 34.1 1993 34.3 1994 34.4 1995 34.5 1996 33.8 1997 34.3 1998 34.6 1999 34.4 2000 34.4 2001 34.2 2002 33.8 2003 33.8 2004 33.8 -- Guaranteed Fear and Loathing. Abandon all hope. Prepare for the Weirdness. Get familiar with Cannibalism.
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antiphishing Phishing Scam Terminator Premium join:2004-06-09 Wilkes Barre, PA kudos:2 Reviews: ·PenTeleData ·ProLog	________________________________________________________ Why the Wal Mart crack? Do you consider the job disreputable? Is providing rock bottom prices to American consumers wrong? ____________________________________________________________ Please tell me where you are getting your statistics? How accurate are they? The main reason why I chose Walmart is because they create a lot of low paying Service sector jobs in the United States. Walmart, well lets see a low paying job that employees low skilled people. These are the kind of jobs that adults should not be doing. These kind of service jobs where meant for high school kids, not adults supporting themselves or a family. Walmart knows very well that their are desperate people out there who will do anything to make a buck. So now we have a society that can't think for themselves because they are under skilled and undereducated. How can Walmart justify buying cheap goods from China, offer low paying jobs and make billions of dollars each year. Is Walmart giving people that work for them the skills or education they need to compete in todays global market? Or course their not, because they would rather keep people down in a low income bracket More profits per quarter translates to happy share holders. Walmart doesn't care about it's employee's because if they did, they would bring all of them up to a better standard of living. What this amounts to American exploitation of workers because why should someone work a at job that's not benefitting them with a better standard of living. Working at a service sector job only benefit's the corporate shirt and ties. You work when they want you to work, work without benefit's and take home hardly any money. Why even bother working at Walmarts or any other low paying service sector job when you can sit home and send out junk emails. -- Dslreports.com Forum No-Spin zone starts here. »www.antihotmail.com spammers_are_scumbags@antihotmail.com
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Beeper Part Of The Problem join:2001-09-27 Dayton, OH	said by antiphishing: Please tell me where you are getting your statistics? How accurate are they? The statistics are from the U.S. Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics. The url is »stats.bls.gov/. I cannot personally attest to the accuracy of the statistics. However, since they are widely reported and used by government, business, and academia as the basis for allocating funding, writing reports, and exploring business opportunities, I imagine that the data contained is considered rock solid. said by antiphishing: The main reason why I chose Walmart is because they create a lot of low paying Service sector jobs in the United States. They provide more jobs than anyone. You also left out that they sell their products to the nation at rock bottom prices, and have been incredibly innovative in logistics, information technology, and supply chain management. It is thought that a major portion of the productivity gains made by the US during the 1990's was directly attributable to Wal-Mart. said by antiphishing: Walmart, well lets see a low paying job that employees low skilled people. That's a vicious stereotype of the Wal-Mart workforce. I don't pretend to know the skill level of their workers. For arguments sake, I will agree with your typecasting of their workforce. Why is it the responsibility of Wal-mart that the worker is low skilled? Why is it not the responsibility of the US education establishment? After all, the various governments in this nation support public education to the tune of 700 billion dollars a year. Why is it not the responsibility of the parents that their offspring are uneducated and low skilled? Why is it not the responsibility of the individual to become educated and skilled? Why blame the corporation who takes a low skilled person, makes the best of the situation, and allows them to earn a paycheck? said by antiphishing: These are the kind of jobs that adults should not be doing. These kind of service jobs where meant for high school kids, not adults supporting themselves or a family. You are correct. I can't find the demographics of the Wal-Mart workforce. My anecdotal evidence is that I find my Wal-mart store filled with teenagers, retired people, disabled folk, leavened with a few adults. I imagine more poor people exploit the low prices of Wal-Mart than there are adult workers at the store. said by antiphishing: Walmart knows very well that their are desperate people out there who will do anything to make a buck. Why are they desperate? Could it have anything to do with the accumulated failures of the individual, their parents, and the public education system? It is not the responsibility of Wal-Mart to solve the problems of their workers. It is Wal-Mart's responsibility to meet payroll. said by antiphishing: So now we have a society that can't think for themselves because they are under skilled and undereducated. According to UNESCO data, the US is the most educated nation on the planet. Percentage-wise, the only nation that comes close is New Zealand. said by antiphishing: How can Walmart justify buying cheap goods from China, offer low paying jobs and make billions of dollars each year. Easily. They put it on a shelf, and watch it fly off of their shelf. There is a fair economic exchange being made. Wal-Mart has what people want. said by antiphishing: Is Walmart giving people that work for them the skills or education they need to compete in todays global market? It is not Wal-mart's business to educate. It is the 700 billion dollar public school system's job to educate. No one is given an education. You have to go earn it. No one is given skills. You have to develop them. said by antiphishing: Or course their not, because they would rather keep people down in a low income bracket. Who keeps the worker in a low income bracket? The worker does. They are the one responsible for their lot in life. Of course, if you want, I could get some wage mobility info to put the lie to your assertion. Data from urban.org show that each year, about 20% of the poorest quintile of Americans move up the economic ladder,and over nine years more than 60% do so. said by antiphishing: More profits per quarter translates to happy share holders. Yes. said by antiphishing: Walmart doesn't care about it's employee's because if they did, they would bring all of them up to a better standard of living. Wal-Mart cares because it provides a paycheck. It is not a corporation's lot in life to make their workers happy, insured, or educated. It is the individual who is responsible for these things. said by antiphishing: Working at a service sector job only benefit's the corporate shirt and ties. Why do you continue to denigrate the value of work? Wal-Mart benefits the buying public. Low wages means low prices. Wal-Mart benefits their shareholders. Low wages means higher profits. Wal-Mart benefits their employee. Low wages means a tremendous incentive to reinvent themselves as a human being. -- Guaranteed Fear and Loathing. Abandon all hope. Prepare for the Weirdness. Get familiar with Cannibalism.
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