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AthlGrond
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Re: USA numba 1

said by BonezX:
ratrace as in, will run over, trample, sabotage to get ahead, you know like the movie.
You need to stop basing all of your opinions on movies. Seriously.

said by BonezX:
well there are allot of people pissed at bush over the iraq thing, yet he's still in office, why don't they just kick his ass out ? (or can't they anymore)

And there are a lot of people who are pleased as punch that the Iraqi government is not going to be aiding terrorists any time soon.

Both sides get to cast votes in November.

I know you don't like elections, but that is the method we use to transfer power in our republic.
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BonezX
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there is a way to get rid of a leader, i forget what it's called right now, but there's only been one president that has had it done to them.

i used the movie as an example of the phraze



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said by BonezX:
there is a way to get rid of a leader, i forget what it's called right now, but there's only been one president that has had it done to them.
You can impeach a president for high crimes and misdemeanors. The catch is you need the political will to remove the president.

Truth be told the loony left hates W enough to try anything to get him out of office, but everyone else is willing to use the more traditional election process.

(Remember the Clinton impeachment for him lying under oath? Despite the perjury being 100% clear and proven, he was still not removed from office because of it, the political will just was not there.)

said by BonezX:
i used the movie as an example of the phraze
My point still stands.

I understood that you were using it as an example, and it was also clear you have no real idea of what it is like to live and work in the US.
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And there are a lot of people who are pleased as punch that the Iraqi government is not going to be aiding terrorists any time soon.

Both sides get to cast votes in November.

I know you don't like elections, but that is the method we use to transfer power in our republic.



The Iraqi Government may not be aiding terrorists, but us Americans have done such a thorough job at pissing off not only the people of Iraq but the rest of the world, I hardly think the former Iraqi Government (the one in which Bush and his staffers claim aided terrorist attacks on our soil when in fact they did not) would have logically posed any immediate threat to the U.S. But we did need an excuse for that precious, precious black gold. If that's not a material reason for justifying a war, I don't know what is. I'm sure if spam made the Bush clan as much money as their shady dealings with the petroleum market, they would be trying to invade the country with the next highest output of spam next to the U.S. claiming that our national security is at stake.

What I don't understand is how people can be lead so easily by the Republicans in believing that Kerry didn't serve this country with honor. Unlike draft dodging Bush. It makes me sick that people refuse to wake up from the "Matrix" in which they live. Don't be lead like sheep to a slaughter, think about what really is happening to this country as a result of an ever-increasing love of money that many of the wealthy have. To be "fair and balanced" It's not just corruption on the conservative-Republican, but the liberal-Democrat AND anyone caught in the middle, with too much money and time on their hands. Money is absolute power, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Thanks for the rant.



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well if you and another person were applying for a job, and they had a criminal record for theft or somthing along those lines and diden't mention it and you knew about it, would you use that as a way to lessen their chances at the job and heighten your chances ?



AthlGrond
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said by BonezX:
well if you and another person were applying for a job, and they had a criminal record for theft or somthing along those lines and diden't mention it and you knew about it, would you use that as a way to lessen their chances at the job and heighten your chances ?

No.

But I might rat them out anyway depending on the kind of job and the kind of crime. Some kinds of criminals are bared by law from having certain kinds of jobs.

Have you ever had a job interview? It is extremely unlikely that I would know what someone else mentions or does not mention in their job interview, particularly if I'm in competition for the same job. The only ways I can imagine knowing would be if a) I already knew the other person and they tell me directly (why would they?), or b) the interviewer was grossly negligent (why would I want to work for a bunch of incompetent nitwits?).

Perhaps you have a more realistic ethical question?
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BonezX
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well we will use copyrights as an example, you know of a company that is about to copyright somthing (like someone in there got wasted at a bar and told you because you were the closest person there)that will make everyone in the company rich beyond anything they could possibly need, and you were desprately in debt (credit cards, carpayments, house payments) would you use the information you had gotten from the drunk and draw up a rough sketch based on what he told you and send it to be copyrighted before the company that originally made it so they would have to pay you to use it ?



AthlGrond
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No, why would I trust a drunk? Especially one with such an unbelievable story?

But seriously, no I wouldn't.

I don't think we are getting anywhere here, you can ask almost anything and I can give a pat answer that will make me look like the second coming. We don't need to go any further.

Talk to you later.
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BonezX
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yea, well the onlyway to properly answer the question is to be in the situation and sence you are not in it, it makes you look like a hero in the eyes of "good" people.



IT Guy
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First and fore-most,I do like elections but would like them even more if they were fair to begin with, but campaign finance (yet another working concept based on pure greed) as well as the shady setup of bypassing the true American perspective (popular vote) of who the next Pres. should be, but instead we use the electoral collage, which is not representative of the populous. It's a sham. Greed, most certainly, seems to be the philosophy of the two major political parties. That, in my opinion is NOT a reflection of a democracy, but more closely represents a weak form of socialism. Campaign finance is keeping the good candidates out of the running, simply because they do not have the monitary assets to compete with this old-style "democracy".

Secondly, there was NO link that Iraq or even Saddam himself had ties to Al-Quida (which after the fact was confirmed by the current administration). Al-Quida only appeared in Iraq after we had messed it up so badly, taking advantage of that country's lack of government to hit another strike to the US by killing our soldiers (many of whom must buy their own body armor because our government can't find the resources necessary for THEM. Maybe if we cut the over-all war budget supplying our forces may happen).

Lastly, both sides may indeed cast their votes. But will it really matter? Not only did the Florida election debacle prove that no matter which method we chose to cast our vote, it's not really safe and can easily be changed or even disappear altogether. Now Florida wants to begin using electronic voting machines which are inherently flawed. The point is; the vote can be easily swayed or manipulated by a person who necessitates the capital to do so and has the will to do so. Just food for thought.


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