 viperpa33sWhy Me?Premium
join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL | Excuse me? said by claudeo:
Without the ACLU there is a good chance you would not have been able to post this inane statement and there is a good chance that we might not be able to read it, because someone might find it unpleasant or disturbing. May I suggest that you study the citizenship exam immigrants have to take to qualify for naturalization as US citizens; you might learn a thing or two about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
When the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were written we had no ACLU and we did just fine. The people were able to speak out with no reprisals. Sure we had some bumps but doesn't any society? Without the ACLU, my right to still speak out is still there. I still have the right to post this without the ACLU or the government hanging over my shoulder.
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights was created to give the people of the United States certain rights and liberties that was not granted under British rule at that time. Our founding fathers wanted to create a more free society but also protect society at the same time.
The PA law in now way takes liberties away. It merely protects the innocent that can't protect themselves as in this case, children. Most kids don't even understand between right and wrong. We have an obligation as parents and law abiding citizens to protect the kids from people who take advantage of that innocence.
The law does not take the rights away from adults. Like I said the filters could have easily been fixed without striking down the whole law. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights was not meant for kids to be subjected to smut. |
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rboe18
join:2004-05-19
Everett, WA | screw the aclu ACLU are a bunch of dirty lobbyists. Read up on 'everything' they support and oppose. It would seem they have their own list of 'civil-liberties'. |
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 RhobitePremium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA | reply to viperpa33s
Re: Excuse me? Really? We did just fine? Native Americans were two fifths of a person, white people could own black people, and women couldn't vote. Yeah I guess you're right, we "did just fine" back when the constitution was written! You could be jailed for speaking out against the government. Look up the sedition act, then come back here and say we don't need the ACLU.
Of course you're just sore because you're a typical ACLU-hater, this isn't about civil liberties at all.. it's about "under God" and public religion and (heavens no) defending NAMBLA's right to free speech.
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RhobitePremium
join:2002-02-24
Cambridge, MA | reply to rboe18
Re: screw the aclu said by rboe18:
ACLU are a bunch of dirty lobbyists. Read up on 'everything' they support and oppose. It would seem they have their own list of 'civil-liberties'.
It would seem you don't know what you're talking about.
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 sumoI Love Dubs
join:2001-07-18
Old Forge, PA | reply to viperpa33s
Re: Excuse me? "We have an obligation as parents and law abiding citizens to protect the kids from people who take advantage of that innocence."
I think this statement says it best. The keywords here are PARENTS and LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. In no way does that say GOVERNMENT is responsible for protecting our kids. I don't want MY government dictating to me what is right and wrong. Each of us have our own morals, religions, etc., and should be responsible enough to teach our kids right from wrong. If that requires a parent or guardian be present at all times during usage of the Internet, then so be it.
The problem is, most parents these days are too lazy or too busy with other "important" things, that they want others to take on their parenting responsibilities. So then, lame blanket laws like the one shot down are created to do the parenting without the real parents or guardians having to think about it. In the mean time, it takes away our freedoms and forces the ACLU to get involved.
No, I don't like the fact that there are sicko's out there offering child pornography, nor do I want my children accessing pornography, hate sites, etc. However, *I* want to make that choice as a parent. |
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