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 pcscdmaChocobo Chocobo Random BattlePremium
join:2004-01-14
Winterset, IA | reply to insomniac84
y0u'V3 Ju57 833n pwn3d With all of this argument over how VoIP should be regulated, I wouldn't be surprised if we would have to contribute to the USF and kneel down to the FCC's regulations to access the Internet. It's beginning to make the VoIP providers look more and more like telcos and on the way to something more extreme. "It's my network. You can't share it with anyone." say the telcos. "Hey, it really isn't our network, but if we can convince the FCC to classify VoIP as a CLEC or something without classifying us as a telco we would be in total control of the Internet with minimal upfront investment." say the VoIP providers.
Honestly, it just doesn't make any sense and looks childish to have Yahoo! Google Microsoft and everyone else dictate how your ISP should operate. It still doesn't change when you put Vonage or Nuvio in the picture.
Take that pipe and smoke it.
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I registered on DSLReports/BroadbandReports to talk about Broadband and DSL. Did you see GWReports or JKReports because I sure as hell didn't. Enough with the political bullshitting already.Free Kevin | |
 calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | ...at least we agree on something.... We agree that VoIP providers are like application providers.
We may agree that having an ISP allow all application providers to access its customers is a good thing.
We may just disagree on how much government action is appropriate (or necessary) to ensure this equal access.
I don't know that governmental intervention will be necessary--perhaps market forces will discipline the ISPs. I do feel confident, however, that some ISP's will try to disadvantage non-affiliated content/application/service providers, and I expect that it will happen relatively soon to VoIP providers.
Calvoiper
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| We're getting somewhere... said by calvoiper:
We agree that VoIP providers are like application providers.
Let's even go one step further. Until VoIP providers quit lobbying and step up to the plate to CLEC status, they are Application Providers. No different than E-Fax, Video Email, or online gaming.
said by calvoiper:
We may agree that having an ISP allow all application providers to access its customers is a good thing.
I am in total agreement that ISP's shouldn't do any sort of port or application filtering/buffering/etc., unless it's something that is affecting the health/service of the network itself. If you pay for a connection to the internet, you should be allowed access to anything legally available....BUT, the quality and service responsibility falls on the Application Provider, not the ISP.
said by calvoiper:
We may just disagree on how much government action is appropriate (or necessary) to ensure this equal access.
I'd be careful about using the term Equal Access. Wasn't that part of the modified judgment to require customers of LEC's access to the LD carrier of choice with "1+" dialing? This has nothing to do with that since there is no internet application regulatory group.
said by calvoiper:
I don't know that governmental intervention will be necessary--perhaps market forces will discipline the ISPs. I do feel confident, however, that some ISP's will try to disadvantage non-affiliated content/application/service providers, and I expect that it will happen relatively soon to VoIP providers. Calvoiper
You know what.....I agree that some ISP's will protect their own investments if they believe they need to for survival, but I really don't think it will ever get to that. I believe without a doubt, that the Cable Co's will take it a step further and make it impossible for third party VAP's (Voice Application Provider - Hey, I think I've coined a new Acronym!) to find success with their customers. By the time the big wheel of governmental intervention comes around, it will be too late.
HJ
PS I was never a big fan of Shakespeare, but you have to respect the guy whose works are still taught 500 plus years later. I always thought the, "Let's kill all the lawyers" was a suggestion to taking away the law so the people had no protection. Thus helping the strength of the Dictatorship. I could be wrong. It's happened once or twice before.:D | | |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | HJ,
I was trying to avoid the MFJ definition of Equal Access--that's the reason I didn't capitalize the term. I was speaking of a different concept--the ability to communicate with the end user over the facilities of the end user's ISP on the same terms as other content/application/service providers, regardless of whether or not they are affiliated with the ISP. I didn't have an quick idea of what term to use ("equal throughput", maybe?) and I sure don't want to try and define it with great specificity--defining Equal Access was hard enough, and I was part of that....
Calvoiper
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