w2co
join:2003-07-16
Longmont, CO | reply to Trivista
Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes "And in about 3 months your behavior would be reclassified as a felony"
I highly doubt it sir, after all we are federally licensed to use said spectrum, and BPL is not. We can transmit as much power (up to our legal limit) in order to make reliable contacts under the current band conditions. Now the legal limit for us is 1500 watts DC, and we can have antennas with as much as 8-10 db of gain on those frequencies. This equates to an effective radiated power of around 15,000 watts right in the middle of the BPL spectrum. It's time now to start talking about the interference BPL will receive, not what it creates. We all know that. Being under part 15 rules, BPL will have no recourse regarding interference it receives, especially from a licensed service. But many do not know the hidden facts, all they know is what the marketers and politicians tell them and they believe it and blow off the engineers who know what will really happen! No wonder this country is in shambles. I for one will be damned if I will trash my hobby of 35 years and all my equipment collected and maintained over those years just for a bunch of know nothing bitheads who think they can just steamroll us off the airwaves just so they can play games and download porn faster. If you don't have broadband where you live - move. It's that simple. |
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 N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" GuanoPremium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | Another issue to consider.
Interference from BPL will essentially force Amateurs to increase the power they need to use to establish communications, therefore, increasing interference to BPL.
This is an ill advised "technology". The power companies would be better served opening up their right of ways to fiber, or investing in fiber themselves and eating the telcos lunch. |
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What part of LAWS will be changed did you not understand? I am saying that acting like childern, and that is what these threats are, is counterproductive.
You want to get people on your side? Provide examples of real world, simulated if necessary, trouble that BPL will cause. Driving around in a car listing to a shortwave news broadcast will not work. You have to convince the public that their saftey is threated as they will think that shortwave news isn't that important when they can just turn on their AM/FM/XM radio.
Wake up to reality and understand that laws can be changed and that the people you are fighting have a lot more money and contacts in DC than you do. |
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w2co
join:2003-07-16
Longmont, CO | I don't have to fight anybody on this, fact is we have been using that spectrum since the early 1900's and still is today, alot of your technology was formed from ideas directly invented by us hams. The laws will not change in the way you predict at all, if anything they will change against BPL because of interference to licensed services. Just wait until someone gets killed because of BPL interfering with some vital communication, or an aircraft crashes etc. etc.. The shit will hit the fan then I assure you, Heads will roll but the licensed users will prevail. A lesson to the uninformed - You cannot cheat the laws of physics! |
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| tv has been using the same spectrum for a long time, too, but that spectrum is being taken back and reassigned as part of the migration to digital tv. if the government feels the need, this can and likely will happen again.
your "if you don't have broadband, move" position is the single most asinine thing i have ever heard. there are whole states (like my homestate of mississippi) that are so rural that likely no one will ever offer any kind of broadband for most of the states residents.
my dad would likely fight you if you told him he had to sell the house he built with his own hands and move to a city if he wants internet faster than 24kbs. |
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| Internet can be delivered by;
DSL – if you have a phone line you should be able to have DSL.
Cable
Wireless – WiFi, WiMax etc.
Fiber – the real future
The suggestion that BPL is rural solution is totally absurd, it is the most unsuitable solution of almost any for rural deployment. |
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Correct!
Right on. Well said.
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Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes the bpl test we were invited to worked off the g standard of wifi.
regardless, no one is going to spend the money to lay any kind of wire to rural areas. the last time i checked, bellsouth still had less than a dozen dial up numbers for modem users. and they will happily tell you that they are only required to offer speeds of around 16kbs to anyone.
the benefit of bpl is that it allows there to be another option. with enough options, someone will finally see a way to fill that need and deliver decent speed internet to rural people thats affordable. |
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