 AJ5TT
join:2003-08-17
Friendswood, TX | Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes DAldredge
Think you have it backwards. Interference to licensed users is punishable by a fine or jail if the offender continues to operate. BPL is not a licensed service of the spectrum. | |
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 | | Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes I know that. That is why I said the laws would be changed. You may go to dict.org to look up that word if you need.
People who make threats like this are not helping the public image of Hams and in matters where the people you are fighting have a lot more money than you, public opinion helps a lot.
Rethink your message and stop issuing such threats or the laws will be changed. | |
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 | | | Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes I wonder what part of the Part 15 rules you don't understand. Simple terms: BPL must not interfere and must accept interference from licenced users of the spectrum. Amateur radio is a licensed service under Part 97 rules.
People like you have already made up their minds. "If HAMS don't fall into line, you will be pushed aside" is your mantra and you refuse to budge. Neither will we. We will operate within the rules and the laws. | |
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| | | | Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes The laws of the United States of America are not written in stone. They can be changed. That is what the Congress does.
If I am mistaken about this please let me know what those people in DC that we elect do.
You need to learn to read what people are writing, not what you think they are writing. I am not saying that Hams are wrong, I am saying that Hams need to understand PR and stop acting like kids. I haven't stated my position on BPL anywhere in this thread. | |
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| | | | | Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes said by Trivista:
The laws of the United States of America are not written in stone. They can be changed. That is what the Congress does.
If I am mistaken about this please let me know what those people in DC that we elect do.
You need to learn to read what people are writing, not what you think they are writing. I am not saying that Hams are wrong, I am saying that Hams need to understand PR and stop acting like kids. I haven't stated my position on BPL anywhere in this thread.
We do understand PR. You don't. You think money will buy everything. It won't.
What you are saying is that HAMS should go by the wayside that the battle is lost. WRONG! It is not and the courts might have to decide this and it could go very badly for the BPL providers too.
Look at the Jim Crowe laws. They were found to be unconstitutional. The people in the south that wanted them were the majority but they still lost.
So, you are saying by this PR game, we need to lie and buy off politicians. That's exactly what the BPL providers are doing.
BTW, you might want to wear your tin-foil hat and look out for black helicopters. | |
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| | | | Although I don't think it's a good idea, I think DAldredge is saying that if you Hams don't play nice we'll make your hobby illegal. I hope it doesn't come to that, but it wouldn't surprise me if BPL supporters try at some point. | |
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| | | | | Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes said by rmrper:
Although I don't think it's a good idea, I think DAldredge is saying that if you Hams don't play nice we'll make your hobby illegal. I hope it doesn't come to that, but it wouldn't surprise me if BPL supporters try at some point.
They can try, but there's no basis for it. The medium isn't designed to handle ingress interference. If it was twisted pair or coaxial cable, there's natural shielding to keep out foreign signals. Also, it will probably be very, very difficult to identify ingress interference to pin it down to an Amateur, if it was intentionally happening. I'm not saying it's right, that's just the technical realities.
BPL would have an easier case to acquire dedicated spectrum. On the HF bands, this is handed out in kHz, not the megahertz upon megahertz that BPL needs. | |
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| | | | You do not understand. With the BPL Industry arriving, there is now more money in making HAM illegal, then continuing to protect it with current laws. If HAM activity interefers with the money making activity of BPL, then the laws WILL be changed, and very quickly.
Do you understand now? | |
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| | | | | Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes said by NDPTAL85:
You do not understand. With the BPL Industry arriving, there is now more money in making HAM illegal, then continuing to protect it with current laws. If HAM activity interefers with the money making activity of BPL, then the laws WILL be changed, and very quickly.
Do you understand now?
So you are advocating the buying of government? 
Either that or you must be a facist. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes Changing laws is not facism. BPL needs protection from HAM vigilanties. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Welcome to the train wreck fokes said by NDPTAL85:
Changing laws is not facism. BPL needs protection from HAM vigilanties.
BPL is the one in violation. OWNED by Part 15 rules. | |
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join:2001-08-21
Dayton, OH
kudos:1 | just like Nextel needs protection from those public service vigilantes trying dispatch fire trucks and cops to you and your families houses. Its the same ideology.. trash a legitimate service for $$. | |
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