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reply to nizon

Re: BT slowdowns?

reply to will2k
i suggest everyone use azureus to dl bt now from my experience bitornado is very slow now because of shaw but azureus speeds can be good sometimes -.-

reply to will2k
I have not even been able to connect my pc to suprnova.org without first doing a tracert and then typing in the destination ip. They are most definately restricting where we can use our bandwidth. this has been happening for more than 15 days for me. I haven't had problems with any other area of my service. I think im going to cancel the extreme part of the non extreme service.

Oh and im on 13th near main...

I just called shaw again and they are sending a tech to my house they say that there is actually a signal issue to my modem. Hopefully thats what is causing at least part of the issue. I never want to have to go through what i went through on WoW beta again when downloading something over BT.

reply to Gbz

Re: BT slowdowns?

reply to nizon
Well, since the fiber has already been laid, they only need to 'UPGRADE' their existing network. Just look at what they already have invested, these fiber purchases:

»www.shaw.ca/Tmplt2.asp?PageID=459
»www.shaw.ca/Tmplt2.asp?PageID=245
»www.findarticles.com/p/articles/···96863126
»www.angustel.ca/update/up214.htm···IBERLINK
»www.shawbigpipe.com/pdf/network_···bone.pdf

I found this pretty funny in my search for fiber related posts:

»www.techvibes.com/idealbb/view976.html

I highly doubt they would have to rip up the ground to lay new fiber when they already have created the facilities for their already massive fiber network.

When you own a Cable Company you always plan for expansion.

They have a license to print money, they're opening up operations in the east coast of Canada DUH!.

I just hope Bell opens its operation in BC a lot quicker, as they will be in direct competition with Telus and with Shaw for HSI.

-C

reply to xaminmo
Finally someone that knows what they're talking about.

reply to will2k
Event 4226. Thats something Microsoft put in SP2 .It puts a limit on P2P applications. Event 4226 limits the max tcp connections u can recieve and/or send. B4 SP2 it was unlimited. With SP2 its 8 or 10. Some P2P programs tinker with it and make the value 50. Thats cool for most ppl, but nothing beats unlimited.

To see if you get Event 4226, (This method of finding it is for ppl with XP Home/Pro)
go to Start/Settings/Control Panel. Click on Admin. Tools. Click Event Viewer. Click on System. In the big column to the right, see if you can find Event 4226. if you dont find it, you OK. If you do find it, there are ways to change it.

Check this place out: »www.lvllord.de/

They created a lil program that changes the max concurrent connects from 8 or 10 to 16,777,214. And even tho the max value you can change it to is 16 million, in their eyes that the same as unlimited. Who gonna get 16 million ppl connected to them at the same time anyway? lol

castronovab
RTFT

comm
Sympatico uses a different "system", no?

TELUS says they want to squeeze every drop out of copper before they move on, so will Bell use 360Networks in the GVRD?

reply to will2k

reply to TELUS
I'm not too familiar with Bell/Sympatico's setup in the east, however it could be something similar to Telus.

Bell has many choices in the GVRD area, they can even use BigPipe or Telus existing fiber optics infrastructure.

There is something inside the Canada Telecommunications Regulations that doesn't allow Telecom company's in Canada to monopolize the area they're servicing.

In this case Telus and BigPipe would have to provide Bell/Sympatico its services at a rate that would allow them to compete with BigPipe/Telus in other markets.

This is what I have heard and read a little about it a long time ago. I'm going to try and find out if I can find any information online regarding this, or if someone else has it this readily available and they can post it that would be great!

-C

reply to Gbz

reply to will2k
I've noticed insane slowdowns on newsgroups b4 holloween, now its faster than ever. i'm sort of relieved and grieved @ the same time. Although i use bt, and occasionally p2p programs. I download from usenet almost all the time. So i guess u can't please everyone.

Really? I noticed that before or during the summer, the newsgroup speed were literally cut in half. I can't download from them at more than 150kB/s. Maybe I should start using multiple servers.

Yeah, i think they imposed a download cap per news server, i can't go past 150k/s on a server so i use binary news reaper to download from 3.

reply to will2k
Grr. My upload is still shite. Download speeds are great, but that doesn't help me at all when I have to upload a certain amount of that to keep my ability to download...

xsmirage, which trackers are you using? I'd like to try them to see if they work well for me, as well.

reply to will2k
Hi All,

I think I am able to say with a great deal of certainty that Shaw is not shaping p2p traffic at this time.

They may, however, be shaping _all_ of a subscriber's traffic if that subscriber has a history of using a great deal of bandwidth over the norm. Though, of course, that is not for certain.

Nonetheless, we're all well aware that our speeds have sucked recently in the GVRD. Well, Shaw is aware of this and it is no surprise to them. They are currently in the process of upgrading the network in the entire GVRD, one neighbourhood at a time. This work began in October and likely will not be complete until December. Much of the slowdown is related to these upgrades. The upgrades include splitting nodes to decrease congestion, and installing new equipment at the head end. Over the last three days, for example, users in Kerrisdale in Vancouver and some areas of Surrey have been getting work done on their network.

Now, as to why I'm pretty sure that Shaw isn't going to be rate limiting any specific type of traffic anytime soon: legal reasons. It may be possible that some of these switches were installed somewhere, but I can assure you that now that word has gotten out, they are being removed as fast as possible. In fact, it would not surprise me to learn that the post on this forum by "ShawInsider" is true, but that the decision made by that one manager and one tech is now being reversed as fast as possible.

Remember a few months ago, several ISPs across Canada were sued by the CRIA? ISPs like Shaw want a very specific kind of status legally from the courts, especially now that they are going to be offereing VoIP in the new year. They want to be considered as common carriers, so that they are protected from liability associated with being a conduit for potentially criminal actions. You can't sue the phone company if someone plots a murder over the phone, right? Well, Shaw wants to make sure that they're not responsible if someone breaks the law using their network. And as far as copyright goes, it is imperative that Shaw maintain, as it has all along, that it does not care about what kind of data you transfer, and, even more, that it does not have the ability to block specific kinds of traffic. I'm sure Shaw's lawyers have screamed this to management several times over the last few days, as news has spread that Shaw was limiting p2p traffic. It is extremely bad for Shaw to have this kind of publicity, and you can be sure they will spend the money to upgrade capacity long before they limit any specific protocols, as doing so would demonstrate that they could be partly responsible for material which traverses their network. Trust me, this is a position that Shaw does not want to be in.

So, wait a little while. As Shaw completes work in the GVRD you should see an improvement in your connections.

Cheers,
UserUser

Basically, i have two problem right now: Slow internet and slow BT.

i always wondering why my BT is so slow. Although my line only down max @ 90k and upload max @ 45k. Why i never seem BT hitting d/l OVER 30k and upload OVER 30k? Thus, i think bt slow problem is independent from my slow line problem. Even with my slow internet problem, i can still download around 90k from web or news server.

1. I have suffer slow half month already
2. I havd phoned shaw few times about my "slow" internet problem and they didn't say anything about "slow cause by upgrading" to me. If they do upgrading network, why they don't tell everyone the slow is cause by upgrading??
3. If i started to talk about BT problem, they just said its my computer problem or they don't support BT whatever.
4. Three lvl 2 tech had come to my house and still nothing got fixed
5. finally, i don't wanna "WAIT" anymore. I am PAYYING shaw everyday? WHY I DON'T GET THE SERVICE everyday? If shaw saying something like " ok, if you didn't get 3mbits down or 5 mbits down for extreme-i, i won't charge you" then i think i will wait.

reply to will2k
Ok what is BT ??