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bcool
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Mele: About Google Desktop Search

»www.desktop.google.com/about.html#download

on the topic of FF start page = non issue for me. I don't care one way or the other.

Mele20
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Thank you. That was an interesting read. Now I better understand VirtualLarry See Profile comment. I can see where if you have a lot of information stored on your computer and use IE that this Google tool could be useful.
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bcool
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The Ozarks

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Thank you.
This is the part I hate. I clearly understand the early rumblings concerning potential privacy breaches using Google Desktop Search(GDS). But it works so marvelously well and it's something I've been looking for like since forever. Sure hope GDS doesn't turn out be a wolf in sheep's cloathing...

(Incidentally, GDS will display in Firefox just as well as it does in IE or in Maxthon for that matter.:))
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hpguru
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Re: Mozilla Firefox Requires EULA??

said by Tablet:


Here is the final version of the EULA, I can see nothing wrong with it so far. IMHO it is just about liability and preserving Mozilla and Firefox trademarks.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong (I'm no legal expert) but I am not so sure they own the "Firefox" trademark. It was in use by Firefox Enterprises prior to the name change from "Firebird" to "Firefox".

VirtualLarry
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There should be no trademark issues. There are 50-something-odd seperately-recognized federal trademark "classes". As long as the company in question's trademark usage falls into one of those classes, and does not infringe on another's, then they can legally co-exist. The "Firefox" company that you linked to, appears to be a pyrotechnics mail-order firm, surely that would not conflict with a software company of the same name.

That was one of the biggest problems when the internet (IANA, I think, maybe NSF) allowed commercial organizations onboard, because there are no trademark-class distinctions in the domain-name scheme as there are in US trademark law. It was never meant for that, and as the subsequent early domain-name lawsuits showed, it was basically on a collision-course from the moment that such a thing was allowed on the internet. IMHO, there should have been a seperate .tm or .tm.com or ..tm TLD, to avoid the horrible mess that the lawyers made of commercial domain-names. '.com', as a singular flat commercial global namespace, never should have existed.


BandHeight

join:2004-08-30

said by VirtualLarry:

There should be no trademark issues.
Likely not in the scenario that HPGuru brought up (a pyrotechnic company compared to a software developer), but the Phoenix, FireBird, FireFox project has had its share of name issues in its short life thus far. Here are just two of many stories and newsgroup posts concerning previous infringement issues:

»www.mozillazine.org/talkback.htm···cle=3082
»news.com.com/2100-1032-997089.html

B
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join:2000-10-28

VirtualLarry See Profile, I think you and I might be the only two people on the planet who give a damn about this Moz EULA !

While I got couple of thumbs-up from well-known folks here, posted comments in support of our concerns have been few. And the usual paranoid Slashdot crowd has been silent. (Although my first inkling of this issue was on an older Slashdot thread.)

Anyhow, when I mentioned .ZIP I was referring to the zipped BINARY distribution, which does not include source code but ALSO omits the EULA as far as I know. So does the EULA apply?

As to compiling from source, again, the EULA clearly says it applies to anyone INSTALLING OR USING THE MOZILLA FIREFOX BROWSER". So I'm just guessing that if your sources compile to anything called "the Mozilla Firefox Browser", then bam, you're under the EULA!

As to the Google connection, I don't really give a damn as long as everything's above board -- I like both entities. (Until recently that would have read "love".)

To Mele20 See Profile -- the Mozilla suite does NOT have the needless Google search address bar taking up space (at least as of 1.7.) Another reason I like it better than the Fireweasel these days.

To hpguru See Profile -- I agree with the other folks -- with all the name change brouhaha, which I think was driven almost entirely by trademark concerns, I would be quite surprised if they did NOT have every right they needed to the name Fireweasel. I believe they announced as much when they unveiled the new name.

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groundling

join:2003-02-08
canada

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", I think you and I might be the only two people on the planet who give a damn about this Moz EULA !"

B:
Some of us just read the posts.


SUMware
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join:2002-05-21
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reply to B
The Firefox search bar is highly configurable and can be easily removed (and restored) in a few seconds.


Bobby_Peru
Premium
join:2003-06-16

With the Hide SearchBar Extension (link in my Extension list post above), the SearchBar (containing as few, or as many Searches as one adds to it) poofs away, and poofs back with each Control-Shift-S (1/4 sec, perhaps).
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