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warthunder2k

join:2002-04-20
canada

I hope they don't do this at my ISP

That would really suck!


53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone

join:2002-10-02
PwnZone

wow thats really lame. I hope cox never does this.



Nerdtalker
Working Hard, Or Hardly Working?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ

That or any ISP.

While Bt does consume a fair amount of bandwidth, cutting users off just aggravates another group of customers.


mark_y_k

join:2004-06-30
Pound, VA

reply to warthunder2k
where's the best place to get bit torrents



Hayward
K A R - 1 2 0 C
Premium
join:2000-07-13
Key West, FL
kudos:1

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reply to warthunder2k
The whole argument is LAME.

WHERE IN ANY RESIDENTIAL BROADBAND CONTRACT is it STATED UNLIMITED CONSUMPTION??? The only thing unlimited is your TIME connection... vs the days you were billed by the hour. You have the speed available ON DEMAND... so pages don't take 3 minutes or occassional files 3 hours.

NOWHERE in ANY OF THEM says were they guarantee this bandwidth FULL BORE 24/7/365, which is what all to many are bitching about.

You want, that GET A BIZ account where the pricing is in line with that usage!!!! RES pricing NEVER had that in mind. (AND the VAST MAJORITY DON'T use it that way either)
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»haywardm.com (Hayward's Key West)


VirtualLarry
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join:2003-08-01

said by Hayward:

WHERE IN ANY RESIDENTIAL BROADBAND CONTRACT is it STATED UNLIMITED CONSUMPTION??? The only thing unlimited is your TIME connection... vs the days you were billed by the hour. You have the speed available ON DEMAND... so pages don't take 3 minutes or occassional files 3 hours.
On the other hand, when it is stated "unlimited", in the absence of any counter-claims or restrictions/clarifications - where does it say that unlimited only applies to time spent online? Doesn't "always on" make that claim primarily redundant, and thus more logical for the customer to be led to believe that therefore the claim of "unlimited", does in fact apply to the overall amount of data transfer?

Also, I've never seen any residential (or even most commercial), that will give you bandwidth (transfer rate relative to unit time) "on-demand". Maximum bandwidth on residential is capped at whatever your speed is.

But bandwidth is not total transfer amount.

said by Hayward:

NOWHERE in ANY OF THEM says were they guarantee this bandwidth FULL BORE 24/7/365, which is what all to many are bitching about.
Most say "best available", or don't even say. They don't outright guarantee it, however. If everyone tries to use it "full-bore", then the service will slow down due to contention, because of oversell. Oh well.

PS. The "Caps Lock" key is on the left side of the keyboard, just above the left "Shift", but below the "Tab" key, on every standard PC keyboard layout that I've looked at.


Hayward
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Key West, FL
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Well duhhh

Somplace you saw NOTHING but caps?

Or did you feel a sudden urge towards teaching keyboard 101???
--
»haywardm.com (Hayward's Key West)



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reply to warthunder2k
They do put specific limitations on every type of account. It makes perfect sense that they would, and I can understand why they would be 'throttling' the ports that Bit Torrent commonly runs on.
In a 3 Week period Ive used over 70Gigs of combined bandwidth(46/25Gigs down/up) on my residential account. Half of that was from the first week. After that first week Ive been making a point of not going full bore. Im sure Id be closer to 100Gigs if I had been.

Further more Im not on the Xtreme-I plan. Just normal High speed. According to the below policy there expectation is that I should be using much less then 50Gigs combined in a 30 day period. Woops Im sure Ill be getting a phone call from them

Taken from »»secure.shaw.ca/policy/Use-Policy.asp

8. Bandwidth, Data Storage and Other Limitation

You must comply with the current bandwidth, data storage and other limitations on the Services.

Users must ensure that their activity does not improperly restrict, inhibit or degrade any other customer’s use of the Services, nor represent (in the sole judgment of Shaw) an unusually large burden on the network itself, such as, but not limited to, peer to peer file sharing programs, serving streaming video or audio, mail, http, ftp, irc, dhcp servers, and multi-user interactive forums. The guidelines for Bandwidth Usage/month for each service package are the following: Shaw High-Speed (with Xtreme-I) - 50 GigaByte; SOHO - 50 GigaByte; Professional - 70 GigaByte; Business - 100 GigaByte (combined download and upload). Business services which are combined with the Xtreme-I upgrade retain the stated Bandwidth Usage/month guidelines. The guidelines for acceptable web site traffic include 2 GigaByte/month for SOHO, Professional, and Business hosting packages. Residential Shaw High Speed and High Speed Lite services do not have specific guidelines of this nature as the Service is not intended for business applications. Shaw reserves the right to set specific limits for Bandwidth Usage and charge for excessive Bandwidth Usage for residential Services at any time. In addition, users must ensure that their activity does not improperly restrict, disrupt, inhibit, degrade or impede Shaw’s ability to deliver the Services and monitor the Services, backbone, network nodes, and/or other network services.

CUSTOMERS MAY NOT RESELL, SHARE, OR OTHERWISE DISTRIBUTE THE SERVICES OR ANY PORTION THEREOF TO ANY THIRD PARTY WITHOUT THE WRITTEN CONSENT OF SHAW. For example, you cannot provide Internet access to others through a dial up connection, host shell accounts over the Internet, provide email or news service, or send a news feed unless express permission is granted by the customer agreement.

The residential Shaw Services are designed for personal Internet use. You may not use the residential Shaw Services for commercial purposes. You may not run a server in connection with the Shaw Services nor may you provide network services to others via the Shaw Services. Examples of prohibited servers and services include, but are not limited to, mail, http, ftp, irc, dhcp servers, and multi-user interactive forums. Some business services may be exempt from these limitations.
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9. Violation of Acceptable Use Policy

Shaw does not routinely monitor the activity of accounts for violation of this Policy. However, in our efforts to promote good citizenship within the Internet community, we will respond appropriately if we become aware of inappropriate use of the Services. Although Shaw has no obligation to monitor the Services and/or the network, Shaw reserves the right to monitor bandwidth, usage and content from time to time, to identify violations of this Policy; and/or to protect the network and Shaw users.

Shaw prefers to advise customers of inappropriate behavior and any necessary corrective action. However, if the Services are used in a way which Shaw, in its sole discretion, believes violate this Policy, Shaw may take any responsive actions they deem appropriate. Such actions include, but are not limited to, temporary or permanent removal of content, cancellation of newsgroup posts, filtering of Internet transmissions, and the immediate suspension or termination of all or any portion of the Services. Shaw will not have any liability for any such responsive actions. The above described actions are not Shaw’s exclusive remedies and Shaw may take any other legal or technical action it deems appropriate.

Shaw reserves the right to investigate suspected violations of this Policy, including the gathering of information from the user or users involved and the complaining party, if any, and examination of material on Shaw’s servers and network. During an investigation, Shaw may suspend the account or accounts involved and/or remove material which potentially violates this Policy.

You hereby authorize Shaw to cooperate with (i) law enforcement authorities in the investigation of suspected criminal violations, and/or (ii) system administrators at other Internet service providers or other network or computing facilities in order to enforce this Policy. Such cooperation may include Shaw providing the username, IP address, or other identifying information about a subscriber, in accordance with the guidelines set out in Shaw’s Privacy Policy (»www.shaw.ca/privacypolicy).


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