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Corvus
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reply to gatorkram

Re: Law suit time

said by gatorkram:

Like my topic says, it's time for some lawsuits against any isp that is going to try and control what programs you use, and how much of the bandwidth you pay for, they decide to throttle. How can they now say, we offer 3000/256 speed connections for example, if they will be slowing down "some" applications.
Forget that, every Canadian ISP prohibit use of "servers" in their contract. Keep in mind that some ISP block porst 21, 25 and 80 wich is much more restrictive than throttling.
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Golden Triangle had no restrictions on running servers, when I lived in Whitby, ON almost a year ago. They offered cheap bundled long distance too.



Corvus
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said by ReneHollan:

Golden Triangle had no restrictions on running servers, when I lived in Whitby, ON almost a year ago. They offered cheap bundled long distance too.
It's all about business, if they start or plan to start loosing money all of this because network issues due to BT, they will take actions...
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el scorcho
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reply to Corvus
you're right, almost all ISPs 'ban' servers on their networks, but i liken that to NYC's 'ban' on jaywalking. it's technically against the law and can be subject to fines, but i have only seen 3 or 4 tickets being written for such as long as i've lived here. 'servers' are a murky issue to begin with. does that mean i'm not allowed to send family photos (on average 2 or 3 megs per pic) to my sister through AIM, or similarly barred from leaving a VNC connection open on my computer so that i can access its files from a computer on my campus?
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John Galt
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reply to Corvus

said by Corvus:

Keep in mind that some ISP block porst 21, 25 and 80 which is much more restrictive than throttling.
WOW...who blocks port 80?
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Liontaur
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Salmon Arm, BC

I think that he's referring to blocking incoming ports so that the ISP's customers can't run servers on those particular ports. One ISP that does this is Telus but I know there's more that do as well.
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shellenberg
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Salmo, BC

But then again, Telus provides server friendly accounts for those that want them. I pay $80 a month and can run any server I wish.



Hall
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reply to John Galt

said by John Galt:

said by Corvus: Keep in mind that some ISP block porst 21, 25 and 80 which is much more restrictive than throttling.
WOW...who blocks port 80?
Inbound port 80. Keeps people from running webservers. If they blocked outbound port 80, well, that would make web surfing a bit difficult.
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VirtualLarry
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reply to John Galt

said by John Galt:

said by Corvus:
Keep in mind that some ISP block porst 21, 25 and 80 which is much more restrictive than throttling.
WOW...who blocks port 80?
Inbound? Verizon DSL does, at least.

Outbound? Any provider that implements a forced transparent HTTP proxy does. I suspect that there are quite a few.

Probably many more than will tell you that they are, since it's not an outright "block" per-se, but rather a clever mis-direction. In the end though, they still don't actually allow the routing of TCP/IP packets between your machine and the internet on port 80, because they get hijacked along the way by their proxy. I'm sure that LE is sniffing along too.


John Galt
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reply to Liontaur
Ah...!

I know that...early in the morning.


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