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said by imrf:Go ahead and try to sue them, you won't win. They aren't controlling any program, just slowing down an unnecessary burden on their network which causes problems for everyone else. They can do what they want with their network, if you don't like it, leave, it's as simple as that. Amen -- anyone whining and complaining about BitTorrents being slow, I would wager, is most likely using BitTorrent for something not "technically" legal. Trading music, movies, etc. outside the bounds of copyright law and the DMCA.
I don't like the DMCA for some of the stupid crap it results in, but the powers that be wouldn't have put it into play if illegal file trading associated with things like Kazaa and BitTorrent hadn't gotten out of hand.
Keep in mind -- I think BitTorrent is a great idea for getting large game patches and other legit files in a unique manner. But if, overall, it's (a) taking up 35% of Internet bandwidth nationwide (or worldwide -- can't remember what the #'s were for in the other article) and (b) being used primarily for illegal file trading, KUDOS to the ISPs that crack down on this crap.
And HAHAHAHAHAHAHA to anyone who can't steal the latest album, movie or game because of the throttling. :P
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| said by IronChefMoto: Amen -- anyone whining and complaining about BitTorrents being slow, I would wager, is most likely using BitTorrent for something not "technically" legal. Trading music, movies, etc. outside the bounds of copyright law and the DMCA. Personally as a informed file trader I feel that the very opposite is often the case. I know for a fact about the litigation that results from being an uploader and would never share anything other than legal files, the risks are just way too high (well that and the fact that there isn't much legal stuff i would care to have in the first place other than bands i really support and am willing to pay to hear their albums the good old fashioned way by driving to my local record store and buying)
The thing is, that most of these bands I do support allow trading of live recordings of their concerts in almost all cases (usually not of a concert that they record themselves for a live CD release)
I can go to Etree's BT site and download lossless compressed versions of numerous concerts of bands i support all day long and not violate any copyright restrictions whatsoever and use huge amounts of bandwidth (lossless compression like shn or flac of shows tend to average a gig or more)
Throttling BT traffic would be a pain for me, I could certainly work around it (plenty of good legal FTP's out there for these same shows), but luckily I don't face this problem yet. Sure hope i never have to either  |
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kudos:1 | said by martissimo: Personally as a informed file trader... ...most of these bands I do support allow trading of live recordings of their concerts in almost all cases. I can go to Etree's BT site and download lossless compressed versions of numerous concerts of bands i support all day long and not violate any copyright restrictions whatsoever... I'm willing to bet that you and others like you who download legal stuff are in the minority of BT traffic. Just because something can be used for "good" doesn't mean others won't abuse it for "bad".
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| You are absolutely correct Hall, there is little doubt that most is not legal. The problem is that throttling illegal use would still affect my legal use if my ISP chose to go this route.
It seems to me that the RIAA and MPAA can take care of themselves through litigation, sooner or later it is bound to cause a slowing of illegal traffic as people actually know friends who have been affected instead of just reading antecdotal stories about it. That day is going to come (in my opinion),
I realize that ISP's hate the so called bandwidth hogs, they make their job tougher, but we also need to realize that demand for bandwidth as more legitimate bandwidth intensive applications are constantly being deployed is only going to rise. The peoples need for bandwidth is only going to increase in the future. At some point the providers will have to provide it or be replaced by those who will.
A lot at work here, and I certainly don't have the answers, but this particular answer doesn't strike me as being the best one |
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| Yeh if you are beta testing World of Warcraft for example, they push their client patches which can be nearly 2.5 GB using bittorrent technology... I use bittorrent regularly to download FPS mods for Battelfield 1942. All these uses are very legitimate, why should they be chocked becuase a few bad apples are doing illegal things? |
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| A few?
I don't support the ISP's blocking things without telling customers, but I am not so naive to believe that there are only a "few" bad apples using BitTorrent.
It's more like a few legitimate users are using it, and have a point. The majority of bandwidth used by BitTorrents is not legitimate.
Unless you want to believe in the good of mankind, and that the 35% of Internet traffic contributed to BitTorrent is multiplayer maps, game patches, and music from artists that distribute music freely. |
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