David Vs. Goliath > Blame the stupid voters

Blame the stupid voters

reply to fAcEtIOUs
You sound like the Democrats. Your side didn't win so that must mean everyone on the other side is a stupid moron.

I guess we're just too thick-headed to appreciate the vision and wisdom of government feel-good projects.

Ya gotta love it. I'm sure that attitude will really win 'em over next time.

-mocycler

reply to fAcEtIOUs
$60,000? Huh, funny that they would rather spend that money on propegenda instead of actually investing it in their infostructure. If they actually cared about their infostructure and customers, they wouldn't be having the threat of a muni telco/cable company.

reply to mocycler
As a former resident of Geneva I have been there for 2 years to watch the FTTH folks attempting to have the tax payers install a fiber network at taxpayers expense.
The FTTH folks never published any business plan nor did they provide any information about the possibility of investing in there idea.
They only wanted the taxpayers to pick up the tab for there expensive hi tech toys that less than 40% of the local residents would have ever utilized.
One arguement was that "Johnny" would be able to do his home work faster but the FTTH folks never bothered to explain to the unknowing parents that they would have to invest in high tech computers, modems, cableing, monitors and software for "Johnny" to take advantage of these high tech toys.
It was defeated because FTTH could never answer an honest question with an honest answer. Always answered questions with more questions and a direct answer was never in there game plan because they (FTTH) wanted the taxpayers to pick up the tab.
The arguement that the cities of Geneva, St Charles and Batavia operate there only electric department never held water because the cities have no experience in providing entertainment to the masses.
May the FTTH rest in peace and never rear its ugly head again even though they mumbled something about the election being unfair.
The election was only unfair to those voters who wanted the taxpayers to pickup the tab for there high tech toys

Lies Unclehomer...and I call BS on you. It was actually SBC who was at the County calling the election "unfair" also, along with several election judges and voters from precincts who got the broadband question who were ineligible to have the question on their ballots. However, if people got the question who were not supposed to have it, then that IS unfair, and a new election should be called.

Say what you will Unclehomer about no business plan as well, but there was a feasibility study done for 2003's election (750 pages worth) and there were always direct answers given. Just because you don't listen to any of the answers doesn't mean they weren't given.

It should always tell voters something that the PRESIDENT of SBC ILLINOIS and NETWORK PRESIDENT OF SBC were brought in to debate the head of the citizen's group (a housewife (meaning no disrespect)from Batavia, IL). Not to mention the big guns from Comcast! Do you think those folks from SBC and Comcast were the honest ones telling the truth to the residents to the Tri-Cities? HECK NO! Then they thought that looked a little heavy handed so Comcast hired a local media consultant to represent them to make them look more "community friendly"....turns out this guy also writes for the Kane County Chronicle in town and happened to be the only guy who had ever written in the paper as a columnist against the broadband issue. HMMMMMMMMMMM. Thing is, he never disclosed to his readers that he was working for Comcast. I hope the KCC continues to take heat for it's very poor discision not to disclose this fact that their writer Bill Page continued to write stories up until Aug. 19 about broadband then work for Comcast (he was first noticed out in public at a Comcast event Sept. 8th).

People like Unclehomer aren't visionary and certainly aren't even rational. Heck, Unclehomer doesn't even see the cities have been providing life critical services to the Tri-Cities for over 130+ years! But he is concerned about entertainment services. IT WAS A CHOICE FOR SERVICES! And we already know how to splice fiber....we have fiber rings in our three towns, we have for years. So, Unclehomer, either get with the times, get a clue, get a life or whatever. But I will not let you spread BS like this to others all over the country.

This was never a tax risk. The questions specifically prohibited taxes from being used. Readers/posters here are certainly savvy enough to know what FFOF was trying to accomplish here. Just because SBC and Comcast can outspend and steamroll grass roots initiatives does not mean that what THEY are saying is the truth. In fact, what they are saying is everything BUT the truth!

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reply to Unclehomer
Well unclehomer, as against this project as I was, I must say you sound more like someone with a personal vendetta than someone with an honest disagreement.

What FFOF had against them was, had this measure passed in its original form, it would have put taxpayers at risk. Tricities backpedaled and changed it only after the voters had a fit. Comcast and SBC notwithstanding, TCBB helped poison their own well and blew their only real chance to get this off the ground.

They also failed to explain why, if they had private money, did this need to go before the voters in the first place? The best answer I could get from anyone on this message board was that "the investors want it that way," and "the municipality has a good name," both of which are remarkably weak reasons for putting voters through this.

I'd like to see the TCBB movement go forward without the government. They have their own money and support of city leaders, so what's stopping them?

As for you unclehomer, lighten up. No matter what, they are sincere, concerned folks who are not out to lie or screw anyone over. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to be against this without getting dramatic.

mocycler

Thanks Mo. I sincerely appreciate your comments today. I know we sit on opposite sides of philosophy on this one (to put it mildly-HA!), but, you are right, we are not out to screw anyone. Now, how about that beer we always talked about sometime?
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