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MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY

Income levels

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# Parts of Huntington Beach and Murrieta, as well as portions of Riverside, Orange and San Bernardino counties in California
# Parts of Delaware
# Parts of North Tampa (if they can stop rupturing lines), as well as Hillsborough and Pasco counties in Florida
# Parts of Montgomery County in the Washington, D.C., metropolitan area in Maryland
# Parts of Essex and Middlesex counties in Massachusetts
# Parts of Nassau, Rockland and Westchester counties in New York
# Parts of Bucks and Chester counties in Pennsylvania
# Parts of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex in Texas, as well as Colleyville, Grapevine and Southlake
# Parts of Arlington, Fairfax and Loudoun counties, as well as the communities of Falls Church, Leesburg and Herndon in Virginia
i wonder what is the average level of income in those "parts"
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keyboard5684
Sam

join:2001-08-01
Pittsburgh, PA

I also wonder what it costs to deploy such fiber networks? Doing so would certainly have to have some sort of justification. Do they just target the areas that have a high percentage of broadband users or a high area of competition?


mishaq
Premium
join:2004-01-24
Richardson, TX

reply to MxxCon
They finished digging up my neighborhood today, I cant wait!
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Damn you FCC!


xrobertcmx
Premium
join:2001-06-18
Sterling, VA
Reviews:
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reply to MxxCon
"Arlington, Fairfax and Loudoun counties, as well as the communities of Falls Church, Leesburg and Herndon in Virginia"

It depends, incomes in these areas are all over the place. I have Verizon DSL in Fairfax County up until the last upgrade past me by. 768/128 just wasn't cutting it anymore so I went to Cox. Now if Verizon will roll out FIOS I may consider switching back.


AJ023

join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY

reply to MxxCon
Way above the national average. They appear to be all of the wealthy suberbs of the big metro cities on first glance.

Major cities like NYC appear to not be on that list.

There are many new areas coming online that will be in the next phase as per the jobs that Verizon is hiring for. However it likely will be months away from now till they actually deploy.

I see hirings in Queens in Hollis and College Point. Also hirings in New York city, however those say it can be either Brooklyn, Staten Island or Manhattan. The hiring locations are from the Central Office. In some areas, a CO can serve multiple towns. Also tons of hiring for areas around the country as well.

Hopefully my town in queens will come online by year end 2005.


BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
Reviews:
·Comcast

reply to keyboard5684
From my understanding of the info I got it depends on the areas adoption of technology to under served to income ratio. I guess it's a smart move on their part to pick up some income to spend.
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zemus

join:2001-01-13
Brooklyn, NY

reply to AJ023
it's not surprising nyc and major cities not on the list. to deploy to already existing run down buildings in a major metropolitan area would cost way to much. nyc is 24/7, it's hard to get clearance to close down a major street to lay fiber lines. geez they can't even shut down canal st to make repares. there more holes in that street than there are in swiss cheese.


AJ023

join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY

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RCN dug up the street when they deployed here. Also Verizon has scattered permits now for test pits pre deployment of conduit/fiber in the Queens area in NYC. The digging part isnt that big of an issue. Plenty of permits come online all the time for digging the streets here.

Verizon has their own conduit system so it needs very little digging in the ground. Maybe only for certain limited sections. Obviously its beneficial to lower how many times the road is dug out, but if the road needs to be dug for fiber, its done. Progress is not stopped. Im not sure of the specifics of canal street construction, however RCN for example didnt even have a conduit system and it built out all over roads in Queens and now it has a conduit system so it does not have to dig again. It was done and quickly too. We have Fiber to the building here with RCN. Just wish it was FIBER to the apartment cause I have bad RF issues and other related issues.


telarium

join:2004-02-28
Saint Louis, MO

reply to AJ023
Although not Verizon, my parent's house in Eagle, CO (Eagle Ranch - a new development) has fiber running to it. This is neither a terribly wealthy nor densely populated area.

Unfortunately, they only offer Internet access through it (512/512), as telephone and cable (CenturyTel) are separate and most likely copper.

-Brad



oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA

reply to MxxCon

said by MxxCon:

i wonder what is the average level of income in those "parts"
Huntington Beach, CA 92649

Average Home Qualities
Home Price: $737,201.42
Age: 27 yrs.
Sq/Ft: 1995 sq/ft
Lot Size: N/A

18.08% of residents in this area fit the following profile:
Demographic:
Median age is 38.8 years.
Householders are between the ages of 45 and 64.
Socioeconomic:
Median household income is about $60,000 and more than 35 percent of the households earn $75,000 or more.
Most households receive income from dividends, interest or rental properties; almost 20 percent have begun to receive retirement income or pensions.
Unemployment is 50 percent lower than the national average.
Over 40 percent of the adults have a college degree and/or a professional or managerial position.
Residential:
Comprised of owner-occupied, single-family homes, which were built between 1950 and 1969.
Average home value is approximately twice the national average.
Almost half of the homes are valued over $250,000 (5 times the national average).
About 30 percent of the work force commutes across county or state lines.

16.94% of residents in this area fit the following profile:
Demographic:
Median age is 36.7 years.
Socioeconomic:
Median household income is slightly over $42,600.
Unemployment is low.
Most of the working population is employed in professional or managerial positions.
More than 35 percent of adults (age 25+) have earned a college degree.
Residential:
Mix of single-family homes and townhouses with smaller (two to five units) rentals.
Most homes are owner-occupied, including condominiums.
Average home value is above the national average.

15.8% of residents in this area fit the following profile:
Demographic:
Almost half of the population is between the ages of 35 and 64.
Median age is 41.3 years.
Socioeconomic:
Median household income is about $85,000.
Represents one percent of all households.
Sources of income include interest, dividends, or rental property income for most households, self-employment income (at twice the national average) and salaries.
Almost 60 percent are occupied in executive or professional positions.
More than 60 percent of the adult population (aged 25 years or older) have at least a bachelor's degree.
Residential:
Homes are predominantly single-family, owner-occupied, and located in established suburbs.
Average home value is three times higher than the national average.
About 80 percent of the homes are valued over $250,000.



Jeffrey
Wilpon please sell the Mets
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join:2002-12-24
Long Island
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·Optimum Online

reply to MxxCon
I can only speak for Nassau county in New York. Income levels are all over the map. In some parts, it's like Bevery Hills. $15 million homes. In other parts of the county, sometimes only a few miles away, it's not nearly as affluent. (~$100,000 homes).


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