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CoRP5e

join:2004-12-11
Essex, MD

Comcast a "safe" isp?

I will be moving soon and my options for my isp is Comcast or Verizon.

Right now i have Bellsouth Fast Access..and while it is slow i havent really had any problems beyond that.

I would like to go with Comcast but i am a regualr BT user and i wouldnt want to get screwed over by my ISP.

Is comcast a "safe" ISP?

Sean84

join:2001-09-22
Ramona, CA

no ISP is safe



nfx
The Wire
Premium
join:2001-05-21
Vancouver, BC
kudos:1

reply to CoRP5e
Comcast enforces caps too, Verizon doesn't AFAIK. If you plan on using tons of bandwidth, go with Verizon.

BT forces you to share, so regardless of who your ISP is, you're still vulnerable.
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nfx


CoRP5e

join:2004-12-11
Essex, MD

reply to CoRP5e
i mean safer than others...

MPAA files suit against 11 OOL Customers

Perhaps taking a cue from recording companies, the major film studios this week began suing those suspected of making popular movies available for download, filing numerous suits nationwide, including against 11 "John Does" in Manhattan federal court.

The 11 people sued in Manhattan appear to be Optimum Online subscribers, based on a trace of the Internet Protocol addresses listed in the suit.



jonez
Got Anime?
Premium
join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA

I wonder if it was just a coincidence that they were all OOL users.

If the MPAA is filing John Doe suits, then I believe it has nothing to do with OOL not being safe since OOL has no control over protecting it's users from MPAA scanning IPs on bittorrent.

Any user of one ISP is as vulnerable as another, but what it comes down to is when it really matters, will your ISP fight to keep your identity hidden.

Verizon has done such a thing, challenging the RIAA to court.

If that's what you meant by safe...then you are safer with some ISPs than with others, however nothing is going to keep you from being less vulernable to being caught by the MPAA/RIAA while sharing files.



Cop
Premium
join:2001-09-05
Auburn, AL

The only way to go is newsgroups. This way, you are 100% safe from those devils. At least for now.



Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX

reply to CoRP5e
While we're on the subject of ISP attitudes toward P2P
usage and whether or not they'll report users sharing
popular copyrighted material to the content cartels, I
have been noticing a whole lot lately on WinMX where
uploaders in my queue will start a file, only to get
disonnected within 2 seconds or so. I've often wondered
if the ISP they're using has some sort of P2P monitoring
software such as Packeteer or others on the network, and as
soon as it detects uploads/downloads, breaks the connection
(or blocks the port entirely). Though I would think this
is more likely happening with WinMX users on university
campuses.
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"Kayura or Badamon, whichever you are, you should know that I will never give up this battle. By the will of the Ancient, I shall succeed!" - Shuten (Anubis) from the Ronin Warriors.



nfx
The Wire
Premium
join:2001-05-21
Vancouver, BC
kudos:1

Shaw, my ISP, has implemented a packet-filtering gizmo called 'Ellacoya' that filters p2p uploads.
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nfx


CoRP5e

join:2004-12-11
Essex, MD

reply to nfx
comcast enforces caps? i didnt know that... what is it?



removed
Premium,VIP
join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
kudos:36

Completely random.



nfx
The Wire
Premium
join:2001-05-21
Vancouver, BC
kudos:1

reply to CoRP5e
i don't know, it's cable so it's probably something really low like 25-30GB per month.

»Comcast HSI
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nfx



BobbytheBrain

@dsl.lsan03.pacbell.n

reply to CoRP5e
More importantly, Comcast limits your newsgroup usage to 1-2GB/month. Verizon, on the other hand, has one of the best usenet servers. Typically, ISP's are penny-pinchers(SBC) and provide almost nothing. If somebody gave me a choice between 2 ISP's and one had excellent usenet and was also less expensive, the answer would be a no-brainer.



MuDvAyNe
Premium
join:2002-03-02
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·Optimum Online

reply to Cop

said by Cop:

The only way to go is newsgroups. This way, you are 100% safe from those devils. At least for now.
IRC also, since you are downloading off of xdcc bots etc.
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hi


Qumahlin
Never Enough Time
Premium,MVM
join:2001-10-05
united state

reply to nfx

said by nfx:

i don't know, it's cable so it's probably something really low like 25-30GB per month.

»Comcast HSI
It's nowhere near that low. There is no official capping, but people who were downloading in excess of 150-300GB per month got warning letters to cut back their usage.

at 25-35GB Comcast could care less.
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jonez
Got Anime?
Premium
join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA

When's the last time someone got a letter?
Afaik, they don't send those letters out anymore after they got a lot of heat from customers who were angry about that...that's what I heard atleast.



removed
Premium,VIP
join:2002-02-08
Houston, TX
kudos:36

They're required to forward complaints to customers.. They can't just stop because Joe P2P is angry.



thender2
Glamour Profession
Premium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY

reply to nfx

said by nfx:

Comcast enforces caps too, Verizon doesn't AFAIK. If you plan on using tons of bandwidth, go with Verizon.
I'll second this.

I upload around 85 KBps 24/7 and haven't gotten any complaints from Verizon.

DSL ISPs are usually more leniant about the bandwidth you use.
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Contrary to popular belief, the sky is not falling.

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jonez
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Premium
join:2004-09-24
Stow, MA

reply to removed

said by removed:

They can't just stop because Joe P2P is angry.
You're not looking at the big picture, those letters were for more than just P2P.

That includes people who were sharing family photos and movies, streaming radio stations and etc as well as P2P that got people sent letters and got them, as well as others, annoyed with comcast's invisible caps. It affected those who didn't get letters because they didn't know how much bandwidth would be too much because comcast would not put out any figures.

julyccc
Premium
join:2004-11-09

reply to CoRP5e
i believe cable and DSL are fighting for more customers right now. I don't think they are enforcing caps as they used to.

Verizon sure don't enforce caps. DSL is suppose to be dedicated bandwidth.
you can use 24/7.

Not sure about comcast.

Both of them are definitely not safe from MPAA and RIAA.



TechSponge

join:2001-05-14
Hillside, NJ

reply to Sean84
True, however...The ISP that puts a service option to firewall, IPS, IDS, Anti-virus scan, Content filter and Activex manage in their CORE or on their edge and adds this service level choice for Newbies as an add on to their pipe costs($6-12/mo)...WILL MAKE A FORTUNE and grow like gangbusters! Drop the unwanted packets, hackers, malware, etc.. before they ever load into the last mile pipe. AOL should do it, its the only way to save themselves. AT&T is already doing it for Business-Class clients.


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